Need input on the DM-50 Directional Mic

Giampy Car · February 24th, 2003, 12:17 PM

I think the ecm-ms957 is the updated version of ecm-s959c with some little difference.
In the 959 type, there isn't the mid side feature and the cannon plug in but for the other i think it's pretty the same.

Joe Lloyd · May 7th, 2003, 10:27 PM

Anyone know if there is one?

Will Fastie · May 8th, 2003, 07:30 AM

I don't think so.

Ask the folks at www.mikemuff.com if they can make you one. They seem to be coming on fast and strong; although the item is not in their list, they might be interested.

Better yet, maybe one of their existing models will fit well enough to be useful. They have three models so far, with five more coming. The current models are a mere $40.

I should also mention www.lightwavesystems.com. They have nothing specifically designed for the DM-50 but there are some products that might fit, like the Miniscreen. Light Wave products are extremely expensive. The Canon GL2 EQ-GL is $150 compared to MikeMuff's $40.

Ron Little · May 9th, 2003, 08:53 PM

Anybody ever go to Walmart get the faux fur and make their own mic cover?

Rick Forge · May 27th, 2003, 06:09 AM

Looking for some information on the Canon dm-50 shotgun mic. Anyone out there with any thoughts? I shoot outdoor videos, fishing, hunting, hiking etc. The price seems pretty reasonable but what about the quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Rick Forge · May 27th, 2003, 06:23 AM

One other question: can the dm-50 be used without the powered shoe mount ( If I already am using the MA300 which has a shotgun mic holder)?

Frank Granovski · May 27th, 2003, 09:19 AM

I've used it. I think it's pretty good, for the the money.

Joe Sacher · May 27th, 2003, 09:56 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Forge : One other question: can the dm-50 be used without the powered shoe mount ( If I already am using the MA300 which has a shotgun mic holder)? -->>>

I don't think the dm-50 will work without the smart shoe on the GL2 or ZR-50, ZR-70, etc. Talking with Brian at Zotz Digital, he recommends the Schriber 568 over the DM-50. With a shock mount, you are $5 more than the DM-50. This should give you much better sound than the DM-50. This can also be used on any camera with a 3.5mm mic input and a hotshot physical mount. My only question is to get this or spend a little more for a better mic.

Tom Voigt · May 27th, 2003, 10:17 PM

I shoot opera's using the DM-50 and my clients like the sound.

But I haven't used other microphones so I can't make a direct comparison.

The advantages of the DM-50 as I see it:

- It's STEREO. At Digital Verite' they have played my stuff over a projector system with a really good amp and speakers. The stereo picture is amazing. You can hear the shape of the room. That person that coughed? You know exactly where he was sitting.

- It's convenient and safe. Stick it in the hotshoe and forget it. I don't monitor sound, and I have never failed to get good results. It uses the camera's automatic level controls so you can't screw up and set the wrong levelsl, or turn it off by mistake. It won't come unplugged. (In fact in the GL2 it takes a real strong pull to get the thing out of the hot shoe.)

- It does a good job on acoustic instruments and voice (operas, remember). If the sound is good from where you are shooting from, it will sound good on the tape. It is reasonably directional, so it doesn't magnify my shuffling about, coughs and handling noise.

I doubt if it is perfect, but it is some of the best money I have spent.

-Tom-

Rick Forge · May 28th, 2003, 06:16 AM

Thanks Tom! For the money I might give it a try. One other question- If I use the dm50 in the hot shoe can I still use an xlr adaptor (beachtek) for my lavaliers? Can I still use 2 wireless lavaliers in addition to the shotgun? Or do I have to disconnect the shotgun from the hot shoe?

Thanks

Chris Hurd · May 29th, 2003, 12:32 AM

The *only* way the DM-50 works, is through the electrical contacts in the advanced accessory shoe.

The GL2 is limited to two channels of live audio recording, so you'll have to choose either the DM-50 via hot shoe, or your Beachtek XLR adapter via the red 1/8" stereo mini plug on the side of the GL2.

Torsten Blomfeldt · September 16th, 2003, 02:01 PM

A question for you who use Canon microphone DM-50.

Do you like it?

How much better is it compared to the camcordermic.?

PLease tell me your experience with DM-50, because I wonder if I shall buy it.

Joe Cirino · September 18th, 2003, 07:05 PM

I Just got one. Not bad, but hey, its cheap, and its better than whats onboard if your on a budget. Nice though...

Torsten Blomfeldt · September 18th, 2003, 11:48 PM

Please tell me more when you have tested it thoroughly.

Is it much better than the camcorder mic?

For instance, when it is windy, how do DM-50 handle it?

Andrew Fu · September 22nd, 2003, 12:16 AM

It's pretty decent. It handles the wind better than the onboard mic, but it will stick pick it up. Plus you have 3 modes to choose from -- the shotgun, stereo 1 and stereo 2. Like the previous post mentioned, it's a good value. It uses the hot shoe so there are no wires to deal with. Otherwise, youd have to find a mic that uses the mic jack, or use an XLR adapter which i think costs more than the DM-50 itself.

February 24th, 2003, 12:17 PM	#31
Giampy Car New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 18	I think the ecm-ms957 is the updated version of ecm-s959c with some little difference. In the 959 type, there isn't the mid side feature and the cannon plug in but for the other i think it's pretty the same. __________________ Giampy

May 7th, 2003, 10:27 PM	#32
Joe Lloyd Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 202	Furry mic muff for DM-50? Anyone know if there is one?

May 27th, 2003, 06:09 AM	#35
Rick Forge Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lake Winnipesaukee, NH Posts: 81	How good or bad is the Canon dm-50? Looking for some information on the Canon dm-50 shotgun mic. Anyone out there with any thoughts? I shoot outdoor videos, fishing, hunting, hiking etc. The price seems pretty reasonable but what about the quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated! __________________ Rick

May 27th, 2003, 06:23 AM	#36
Rick Forge Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lake Winnipesaukee, NH Posts: 81	One other question: can the dm-50 be used without the powered shoe mount ( If I already am using the MA300 which has a shotgun mic holder)? __________________ Rick

May 27th, 2003, 10:17 PM	#39
Tom Voigt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 92	A Vote For the DM-50 I shoot opera's using the DM-50 and my clients like the sound. But I haven't used other microphones so I can't make a direct comparison. The advantages of the DM-50 as I see it: - It's STEREO. At Digital Verite' they have played my stuff over a projector system with a really good amp and speakers. The stereo picture is amazing. You can hear the shape of the room. That person that coughed? You know exactly where he was sitting. - It's convenient and safe. Stick it in the hotshoe and forget it. I don't monitor sound, and I have never failed to get good results. It uses the camera's automatic level controls so you can't screw up and set the wrong levelsl, or turn it off by mistake. It won't come unplugged. (In fact in the GL2 it takes a real strong pull to get the thing out of the hot shoe.) - It does a good job on acoustic instruments and voice (operas, remember). If the sound is good from where you are shooting from, it will sound good on the tape. It is reasonably directional, so it doesn't magnify my shuffling about, coughs and handling noise. I doubt if it is perfect, but it is some of the best money I have spent. -Tom-

May 8th, 2003, 07:30 AM	#33
Will Fastie Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Jarrettsville, MD Posts: 353	I don't think so. Ask the folks at www.mikemuff.com if they can make you one. They seem to be coming on fast and strong; although the item is not in their list, they might be interested. Better yet, maybe one of their existing models will fit well enough to be useful. They have three models so far, with five more coming. The current models are a mere $40. I should also mention www.lightwavesystems.com. They have nothing specifically designed for the DM-50 but there are some products that might fit, like the Miniscreen. Light Wave products are extremely expensive. The Canon GL2 EQ-GL is $150 compared to MikeMuff's $40.

May 9th, 2003, 08:53 PM	#34
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Anybody ever go to Walmart get the faux fur and make their own mic cover?

May 27th, 2003, 09:19 AM	#37
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I've used it. I think it's pretty good, for the the money.

May 27th, 2003, 09:56 AM	#38
Joe Sacher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 177	<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Forge : One other question: can the dm-50 be used without the powered shoe mount ( If I already am using the MA300 which has a shotgun mic holder)? -->>> I don't think the dm-50 will work without the smart shoe on the GL2 or ZR-50, ZR-70, etc. Talking with Brian at Zotz Digital, he recommends the Schriber 568 over the DM-50. With a shock mount, you are $5 more than the DM-50. This should give you much better sound than the DM-50. This can also be used on any camera with a 3.5mm mic input and a hotshot physical mount. My only question is to get this or spend a little more for a better mic.

May 28th, 2003, 06:16 AM	#40
Rick Forge Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lake Winnipesaukee, NH Posts: 81	Thanks Tom! For the money I might give it a try. One other question- If I use the dm50 in the hot shoe can I still use an xlr adaptor (beachtek) for my lavaliers? Can I still use 2 wireless lavaliers in addition to the shotgun? Or do I have to disconnect the shotgun from the hot shoe? Thanks __________________ Rick

May 29th, 2003, 12:32 AM	#41
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The only way the DM-50 works, is through the electrical contacts in the advanced accessory shoe. The GL2 is limited to two channels of live audio recording, so you'll have to choose either the DM-50 via hot shoe, or your Beachtek XLR adapter via the red 1/8" stereo mini plug on the side of the GL2. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 16th, 2003, 02:01 PM	#42
Torsten Blomfeldt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	Do you have DM-50? A question for you who use Canon microphone DM-50. Do you like it? How much better is it compared to the camcordermic.? PLease tell me your experience with DM-50, because I wonder if I shall buy it. __________________ "The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is nothing without work."

September 18th, 2003, 07:05 PM	#43
Joe Cirino Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Posts: 101	I Just got one. Not bad, but hey, its cheap, and its better than whats onboard if your on a budget. Nice though...

September 18th, 2003, 11:48 PM	#44
Torsten Blomfeldt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	tell me more Please tell me more when you have tested it thoroughly. Is it much better than the camcorder mic? For instance, when it is windy, how do DM-50 handle it? __________________ "The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is nothing without work."

September 22nd, 2003, 12:16 AM	#45
Andrew Fu Tourist Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	It's pretty decent. It handles the wind better than the onboard mic, but it will stick pick it up. Plus you have 3 modes to choose from -- the shotgun, stereo 1 and stereo 2. Like the previous post mentioned, it's a good value. It uses the hot shoe so there are no wires to deal with. Otherwise, youd have to find a mic that uses the mic jack, or use an XLR adapter which i think costs more than the DM-50 itself.