24p to psp and iphone?

Nathan Shane · September 10th, 2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fergus Anderson

I used the vegas template but my psp wont recognise the video :(

Odd, because I've never had any problems with the template. I just use it with it's default settings and my PSP has no issues playing back the created file. I've also got a 4GB Lexar Memory Stick PRODuo (MagicGate) card, if that's makes any difference.

Fergus Anderson · September 10th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Hi Nathan - can you just confirm what setting the template has that you used - what resolutio etc
Where on the mem stick are you placing the mp4?
What firmware psp do you have?

cheers

Nathan Shane · September 10th, 2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fergus Anderson

Hi Nathan - can you just confirm what setting the template has that you used - what resolutio etc
Where on the mem stick are you placing the mp4?
What firmware psp do you have?cheers

On my memory stick, the .mp4 videos I create are in a folder called VIDEO. There are 5 main folders total on the mem stick:

MP_ROOT
MUSIC
PICTURE
PSP
VIDEO

I'm currently on the newest firmware for the PSP, v3.52 (and the previous version of firmware worked with the videos as well). I just updated the PSP a couple days ago and the videos all still playback under v3.52

Under Vegas 7e, you choose:
Sony AVC/AAC (*.mp4)

Then choose the default template:
PSP Full Screen - 896Kbps

The default template settings are:
Audio: 128Kbps, 48,000Hz, AAC
Video: 768Kbps, 29.970fps, 480x272

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 10th, 2007, 01:01 PM

Nathan, please try my method. I promise it won't take you more than 5 minutes to set it up. See if will work better for you.

Paulo Teixeira · September 10th, 2007, 02:33 PM

Since 3.3, the PSP is now able to play H.264 videos up to 720X480. Strangely, it doesn’t play 640X480
http://www.us.playstation.com/psp/do...html#update340

It may not be much of a help in this thread but I though I point it out.

Fergus Anderson · September 10th, 2007, 02:49 PM

Oh right - thanks for the info

Im running an old modded firmware with devhood and no idea how to upgrade and still have it modded so Ill leave it
thanks anyway.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 10th, 2007, 02:55 PM

Ah yeah, as I wrote earlier, you MUST have the latest firmware. Sony made huge improvements on their AVC support, so running old modded firmwares is not a good idea if you want video...

Bob Curnow · September 10th, 2007, 06:02 PM

I feel like this belongs in a different forum/thread, but here it goes:

I'd like to be able to test out the max bitrates the psp and iphone can accept. What program (hopefully free or trial) will let me render custom avc or mp4 clips? Seems vegas 8 platinum only has non-customizable templates for ipod (not iphone) and psp.
Bob C

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 10th, 2007, 06:17 PM

As I write on my tutorial on my blog, just change the -b and the -bt values on my templates (edit them with a text editor). This will allow you to test whatever values you want.

However, I must say that for the PSP/iPhone resolution videos, you do not need more than 1 MBPS. Your eyes will not be able to see any difference above that at that screen size, and so it would be a waste of your time...

Bob Curnow · September 11th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Hi,
your template worked great on the PS3... but I tried putting the vid onto my iphone with itunes, and itunes said it can't because it's a format the iphone can't play. Itunes converted it so the iphone can play it.

It retained the 480x270, size, but the file size went up... a 3 meg file is now a 5 meg file.

I can post both on my website in a couple hours... maybe you can figure out what itunes does to the video.
Thanks,
Bob C

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 11th, 2007, 05:12 PM

Are you using the default values in the iphone-psp.bat?

If yes, then I guess that the iphone can't deal with the profile ffmpeg uses by default. Unfortunately, there is no way to change the profile via a switch and have the same video work on both the ipod/iphone and the psp -- or so it seems. :(

I have a PSP to test stuff, but not an iPhone.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 11th, 2007, 05:26 PM

BTW, please edit the psp-iphone template and make the "-coder 1" to "-coder vlc"

Check if that works now with the iPhone.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 11th, 2007, 06:48 PM

ok, I think we have a solution, courtesy of Rob Swain:

To be imported into iTunes, files above 320x240 need to have that special UUID atom. AtomicParsley can add the atom using the following command:

AtomicParsley.exe "output.mp4" --DeepScan --iPod-uuid 1200 --overWrite

...there are Windows binaries available from http://atomicparsley.sourceforge.net/ but you need to compile the development source code. Alternatively you can use NicMP4Box from http://nic.dnsalias.com/ .

Please try to insert the UUID atom bit on your existing encoded file that worked on the PSP, and see if that works.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · September 11th, 2007, 07:43 PM

Bob, try this "fixed" file and see if it works with your iPhone:
http://www.gnomefiles.org/files/vegas/test2.mp4
Please email me on eloli AT hotmail.com to continue testing stuff, so we don't have to do it in this forum. Thanks.

Steven Bothe · September 14th, 2007, 05:40 PM

OMG Eugenia, thank you for those template batch files!!!!

I gave up several times trying to figure out FFMPEG options. Every try the encode came out awefull.

Trying yours now...

September 10th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#20
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Since 3.3, the PSP is now able to play H.264 videos up to 720X480. Strangely, it doesn’t play 640X480 http://www.us.playstation.com/psp/do...html#update340 It may not be much of a help in this thread but I though I point it out. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

September 10th, 2007, 12:06 PM	#17
Fergus Anderson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 321	Hi Nathan - can you just confirm what setting the template has that you used - what resolutio etc Where on the mem stick are you placing the mp4? What firmware psp do you have? cheers

September 10th, 2007, 01:01 PM	#19
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	Nathan, please try my method. I promise it won't take you more than 5 minutes to set it up. See if will work better for you.

September 10th, 2007, 02:49 PM	#21
Fergus Anderson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 321	Oh right - thanks for the info Im running an old modded firmware with devhood and no idea how to upgrade and still have it modded so Ill leave it thanks anyway.

September 10th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#22
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	Ah yeah, as I wrote earlier, you MUST have the latest firmware. Sony made huge improvements on their AVC support, so running old modded firmwares is not a good idea if you want video...

September 10th, 2007, 06:02 PM	#23
Bob Curnow Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sonora, CA USA Posts: 50	I feel like this belongs in a different forum/thread, but here it goes: I'd like to be able to test out the max bitrates the psp and iphone can accept. What program (hopefully free or trial) will let me render custom avc or mp4 clips? Seems vegas 8 platinum only has non-customizable templates for ipod (not iphone) and psp. Bob C

September 10th, 2007, 06:17 PM	#24
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	As I write on my tutorial on my blog, just change the -b and the -bt values on my templates (edit them with a text editor). This will allow you to test whatever values you want. However, I must say that for the PSP/iPhone resolution videos, you do not need more than 1 MBPS. Your eyes will not be able to see any difference above that at that screen size, and so it would be a waste of your time...

September 11th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#25
Bob Curnow Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sonora, CA USA Posts: 50	Hi, your template worked great on the PS3... but I tried putting the vid onto my iphone with itunes, and itunes said it can't because it's a format the iphone can't play. Itunes converted it so the iphone can play it. It retained the 480x270, size, but the file size went up... a 3 meg file is now a 5 meg file. I can post both on my website in a couple hours... maybe you can figure out what itunes does to the video. Thanks, Bob C

September 11th, 2007, 05:12 PM	#26
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	Are you using the default values in the iphone-psp.bat? If yes, then I guess that the iphone can't deal with the profile ffmpeg uses by default. Unfortunately, there is no way to change the profile via a switch and have the same video work on both the ipod/iphone and the psp -- or so it seems. :( I have a PSP to test stuff, but not an iPhone.

September 11th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#27
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	BTW, please edit the psp-iphone template and make the "-coder 1" to "-coder vlc" Check if that works now with the iPhone.

September 11th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#28
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	ok, I think we have a solution, courtesy of Rob Swain: To be imported into iTunes, files above 320x240 need to have that special UUID atom. AtomicParsley can add the atom using the following command: AtomicParsley.exe "output.mp4" --DeepScan --iPod-uuid 1200 --overWrite ...there are Windows binaries available from http://atomicparsley.sourceforge.net/ but you need to compile the development source code. Alternatively you can use NicMP4Box from http://nic.dnsalias.com/ . Please try to insert the UUID atom bit on your existing encoded file that worked on the PSP, and see if that works.

September 11th, 2007, 07:43 PM	#29
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	Bob, try this "fixed" file and see if it works with your iPhone: http://www.gnomefiles.org/files/vegas/test2.mp4 Please email me on eloli AT hotmail.com to continue testing stuff, so we don't have to do it in this forum. Thanks.

September 14th, 2007, 05:40 PM	#30
Steven Bothe New Boot Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 6	OMG Eugenia, thank you for those template batch files!!!! I gave up several times trying to figure out FFMPEG options. Every try the encode came out awefull. Trying yours now...