Alternate version of my reel at DVinfo.net

Steven Dempsey · November 13th, 2007, 06:17 PM

I decided that the long and sobering version of my reel is not going to cut it for those wanting to see more in less time so I created another version of it. This one goes from 5 minutes to 1 minute and I still managed not only to retain all the shots but add 8 more!

720p version is up now for a limited time. I'll be uploading a quicktime file to replace it soon.

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/reel/alternate_reel.wmv

Quicktime version:

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/short_reel.html

Shiv Kumar · November 13th, 2007, 07:43 PM

Steven,

I'm downloading the video now but in the mean time I had a question about the music you mentioned in your last post.

You said "an original soudtrack is create" or something to that effect. Do you compose the music or do you know of someone that does?

By the way I saw the video and my take is the imagery is too good to zip on by. The cuts are too quick.

Eric Sorensen · November 14th, 2007, 03:38 PM

Hello Steven,

For what it's worth, I feel your alternate reel is a bit rushed. Excellent shots, no question. Catchy soundtrack, but hardly any time to notice or appreciate the shots. I understand what you are trying to accomplish and it's a great idea, but I think there’s a fine line for getting that rushed feeling and being too drawn out.

Eric

Steven Dempsey · November 14th, 2007, 04:28 PM

Yeah, I have to agree that the pace is too fast but, man, it's fun to watch :)

I'll find a happy medium.

Shiv Kumar · November 14th, 2007, 05:22 PM

Steven,

It is fun to watch. In fact, I'd like to see some of those clips in the long version. I mean it's the "long" version so what's another 30 seconds or a minute?

Steve Bartlett · November 14th, 2007, 08:33 PM

For what it's worth, Steven, I think you've got two or three "filler" clips in there that could probably be taken out and then you could lengthen some of the others out a bit. I think that it's brilliant and far be it from me to adequately critique such fine work. It's REAL good.

Douglas Villalba · November 14th, 2007, 09:49 PM

I think that the best one would be one somewhere in between the long and the short. If I had to pick one of the two I would go with the short. The long one stays on every shot for too long.
The videos are awesome. It is matching the timing of editing with the music that's a killer.

Great clips to work with anyway.

Joseph Kassana · November 15th, 2007, 08:41 AM

Steven when I am famous with lots of money and in the know, you're the first person I will call. I love your work.

Keith Allison · November 15th, 2007, 10:01 AM

I, for one loved the long version. I want to be able to soak up the visuals - especially visuals as amazing as these. The short reel was waaaaaayyy too fast for me. But I can understand how some people might like the rapid pace. Everyone is different.

Doug Davis · November 16th, 2007, 12:39 PM

I liked the short one simply because I wanted more of it... That's always an accomplishment when someone wants more of your work not less... Just a thought...

Paul Cronin · November 16th, 2007, 03:58 PM

I agree Doug keep it short and if they are hungry for more the demo reel did its job and you talk work.

Yang Wen · November 16th, 2007, 04:33 PM

The girl baseball team shots has a feel of "Any Given Sunday".. nice..

I would take out shots of the boy standing around in shorts.. they look too "normal" too me and have the feel of a "home video". Perhaps if the boy is dressed more eccentric, then it could work out.

It also wouldn't hurt to experiment with adding some clip audio to it. The shot of the kid sliding to home base would really kick ass if accompanied with the sound of sliding across gravel/dirt..

November 13th, 2007, 06:17 PM	#1
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Alternate version of my reel I decided that the long and sobering version of my reel is not going to cut it for those wanting to see more in less time so I created another version of it. This one goes from 5 minutes to 1 minute and I still managed not only to retain all the shots but add 8 more! 720p version is up now for a limited time. I'll be uploading a quicktime file to replace it soon. http://www.pinelakefilms.com/reel/alternate_reel.wmv Quicktime version: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/short_reel.html __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/ Last edited by Steven Dempsey; November 13th, 2007 at 11:01 PM.

November 13th, 2007, 07:43 PM	#2
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	Steven, I'm downloading the video now but in the mean time I had a question about the music you mentioned in your last post. You said "an original soudtrack is create" or something to that effect. Do you compose the music or do you know of someone that does? By the way I saw the video and my take is the imagery is too good to zip on by. The cuts are too quick. __________________ Canon XH-A1, Libec LS-55M, Letus Extreme, Steadicam Merlin, PPro CS3

November 14th, 2007, 04:28 PM	#4
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Yeah, I have to agree that the pace is too fast but, man, it's fun to watch :) I'll find a happy medium. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

November 14th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#5
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	Steven, It is fun to watch. In fact, I'd like to see some of those clips in the long version. I mean it's the "long" version so what's another 30 seconds or a minute? __________________ Canon XH-A1, Libec LS-55M, Letus Extreme, Steadicam Merlin, PPro CS3

November 14th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#7
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	I think that the best one would be one somewhere in between the long and the short. If I had to pick one of the two I would go with the short. The long one stays on every shot for too long. The videos are awesome. It is matching the timing of editing with the music that's a killer. Great clips to work with anyway. __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

November 14th, 2007, 03:38 PM	#3
Eric Sorensen Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 28	Hello Steven, For what it's worth, I feel your alternate reel is a bit rushed. Excellent shots, no question. Catchy soundtrack, but hardly any time to notice or appreciate the shots. I understand what you are trying to accomplish and it's a great idea, but I think there’s a fine line for getting that rushed feeling and being too drawn out. Eric

November 14th, 2007, 08:33 PM	#6
Steve Bartlett New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 17	For what it's worth, Steven, I think you've got two or three "filler" clips in there that could probably be taken out and then you could lengthen some of the others out a bit. I think that it's brilliant and far be it from me to adequately critique such fine work. It's REAL good.

November 15th, 2007, 08:41 AM	#8
Joseph Kassana Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 92	Steven when I am famous with lots of money and in the know, you're the first person I will call. I love your work.

November 15th, 2007, 10:01 AM	#9
Keith Allison New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 19	I, for one loved the long version. I want to be able to soak up the visuals - especially visuals as amazing as these. The short reel was waaaaaayyy too fast for me. But I can understand how some people might like the rapid pace. Everyone is different. __________________ Current Documentary, "The Frisbee Effect" the true story of a man and his flying saucer.

November 16th, 2007, 12:39 PM	#10
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	I liked the short one simply because I wanted more of it... That's always an accomplishment when someone wants more of your work not less... Just a thought... __________________ "The only thing the camera sees is light..." http://www.GoWildOlive.com

November 16th, 2007, 03:58 PM	#11
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	I agree Doug keep it short and if they are hungry for more the demo reel did its job and you talk work. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

November 16th, 2007, 04:33 PM	#12
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	The girl baseball team shots has a feel of "Any Given Sunday".. nice.. I would take out shots of the boy standing around in shorts.. they look too "normal" too me and have the feel of a "home video". Perhaps if the boy is dressed more eccentric, then it could work out. It also wouldn't hurt to experiment with adding some clip audio to it. The shot of the kid sliding to home base would really kick ass if accompanied with the sound of sliding across gravel/dirt..