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Jae Staats November 24th, 2007 06:52 PM

HDV Deck that is compatible with A1 "frame" recording
 
Does anyone know of a portable, handy deck that will play back the Canon A1's frame mode? Just looking for something (besides an HV10/20) for a playback deck. Sony has this out there which looks great, but not sure it will be compatible with the frame mode?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Walkman.html

Chris Hurd November 24th, 2007 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jae Staats (Post 781317)
Canon A1's frame mode? Just looking for something (besides an HV10/20)

There is nothing else besides an HV10 or HV20 that will play back Canon's Frame mode.

Jae Staats November 24th, 2007 07:09 PM

thanks, that was my thinking but just wanted to make sure!

Chris Hurd November 24th, 2007 07:33 PM

Just merged together a whole bunch of "which deck for Frame mode" threads into one big 'ol discussion, just to show how frequently it's asked.

Bill Pryor November 24th, 2007 08:01 PM

If Canon made a deck, and sold one, for every time the question's been asked, life would be good for them.

Balt Indermuehle January 28th, 2008 05:50 AM

Tape deck recommendations?
 
Hi all,

we need a tape deck for our A1's that is capable of both playing and recording an HDV stream back from the editing software we use.

I read some posts suggesting the use of a canon HV10 camera. Does the HV10 permit recording of an HDV stream off the editing computer? Is it compatible with both 1080i and 25f formats?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Cheers

- Balt

Jim Miller January 28th, 2008 07:17 AM

I use an HV20 for that purpose and it works fine 1080/60i and 24F from my A1

Balt Indermuehle January 28th, 2008 07:35 AM

Will an HV10 work as well? I can't seem to find any difference between the HV10 and HV20 apart from the shape of the case.

Cheers

- Balt

Don Palomaki January 28th, 2008 08:06 AM

Some argue the HV20 is a bit better than the HV10, but check the HV30 recently announced is sounds and looks even better. Read more info in the HV10/20 forum.

Lloyd Claycomb January 31st, 2008 06:59 PM

HV20 "Deck" for my A1
 
My HV20 camera/deck is showing up tomorrow. I mainly got it as a B camera and to use for playback and capturing.

I assume this is pretty much a straight forward deal, but thought I'd throw the question out to you all just in case.

Is there anything special I need to know about when using the HV20 as a deck for the A1 videos? Any tricks of the trade I should know about? Or is it just another camera acting as a deck... no bells or whistles or fanfare?

Jim Miller January 31st, 2008 07:12 PM

Just another camera - nothing different

Lloyd Claycomb January 31st, 2008 07:14 PM

Anything special I need to know about when using it as a deck? Don't think so, but if there is, I know SOMEONE here knows.

Rob Cook February 2nd, 2008 10:43 PM

$1300.00 for the HV20? or FSC-HD60 $1200 ?
 
Hey, just moved over from the GL2 (Sold Friday) and will place my order for the A1 Monday (Wife Permitting). Been reading for days and have many questions, but I will keep reading.

I no this is about using the Canon HV20 as a 2nd tape deck, but I don’t understand why a FireStore FSC-HD60 is not used. $1300.00 for the HV20 is more then the FireStore FSC-HD60 $1200 @ B&H. This would cut upload time and save wear on the A1 deck. I no there would be times when a 2nd deck is nice, but a tapeless workflow sounds better. Am I missing something?

Thanks

RC

MacBookPro 2.4 FCS2 – No Camera Yet

Bill Busby February 2nd, 2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Cook (Post 819211)
$1300.00 for the HV20 is more then the FireStore FSC-HD60 $1200 @ B&H.... Am I missing something?

I would say yes you are missing something. The HV20 is $700 at B&H. Where are you getting this $1300 info from?

Lloyd Claycomb February 2nd, 2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Cook (Post 819211)
Hey, just moved over from the GL2 (Sold Friday) and will place my order for the A1 Monday (Wife Permitting). Been reading for days and have many questions, but I will keep reading.

I no this is about using the Canon HV20 as a 2nd tape deck, but I don’t understand why a FireStore FSC-HD60 is not used. $1300.00 for the HV20 is more then the FireStore FSC-HD60 $1200 @ B&H. This would cut upload time and save wear on the A1 deck. I no there would be times when a 2nd deck is nice, but a tapeless workflow sounds better. Am I missing something?

Thanks

RC

MacBookPro 2.4 FCS2 – No Camera Yet

I just got my HV20 for around $650.

Rob Cook February 2nd, 2008 11:45 PM

My bad, it was the Canon USA site
 
My bad, it was the Canon USA site. Did not look hard except for the price, and it was $999.00 not $1300.00. That is still a lot of cash. Even $650.00 is high. I have spent over $1000 bucks, plus my time, on DV Tapes and I feel like I’m dumping money/time down the drain.

That’s why I asked about the FireStore C and that work flow.

Thanks

RC

Michael Liebergot February 3rd, 2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Cook (Post 819233)
My bad, it was the Canon USA site. Did not look hard except for the price, and it was $999.00 not $1300.00. That is still a lot of cash. Even $650.00 is high. I have spent over $1000 bucks, plus my time, on DV Tapes and I feel like I’m dumping money/time down the drain.

That’s why I asked about the FireStore C and that work flow.

Thanks

RC

Ron a Firestone will work great to create a tapeless work flow. The problem comes when using 2 or more cameras the same way. Where you would need 1-2 Firestores for each camera. My shoots tend to be 8-12 hours long.

Actually I would prefer the nNovia HD drives. As the drives are hot swappable. More of an initial investment. But cheaper in the long run. One drive per camera, and an extra disk for backup and swapping out if needed.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._HDV_Hard.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Cartridge.html

Chris Hurd February 3rd, 2008 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Cook (Post 819211)
$1300.00 for the HV20...

The MSRP for the HV20 has *never* been higher than $1099. The previous model HV10 briefly sold for $1299 but that was a long time ago. Remaining HV20 stock is currently selling for $650 to $750 until they're gone. The model replacing it, the VIXIA HV30, will list for $1000.

Avoid any dealer selling at prices higher than what I've posted here. Hope this helps,

Rob Cook February 3rd, 2008 02:51 PM

HV20 would be very beneificial and practical
 
Michael , Thanks for the info, looking at it that way I could see why the HV20 would be very beneificial and practical. I always find myself dreading the tape upload. Im saving for the Firestore C.

Thanks again.

Brian Overman March 20th, 2008 08:45 PM

HV10 for XH-A1 Capture?
 
I have seen lots of talk about using a HV20/30 as a capture device. Does the HV10 have the ability to handle the 24F/30F footage as well?

Lloyd Coleman March 20th, 2008 08:54 PM

Yes, works well for 1080i as well as Canon 24f and 30f.


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