Field monitor A/V or BNC? at DVinfo.net

Jeremy Naus · December 15th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Hello,

I want to use a Philip PET 1030 portable DVD player that I have as a field monitor (it's 10"). It can handle 800x480 resolution and has an A/V input.
But when I hooked up my camera using the A/V output of the camera I got an image that was not as sharp as the LCD of the camera itself.
Is it so that the A/V output of the camera is a lower resolution? If so is the BNC connector the one that gives a higher resolution output?

Thanks,

Jeremy

Benjamin Hill · December 15th, 2007, 12:51 PM

There are several different video connectors on the A1/G1s but the real problem here is likely the DVD player. Consumer LCD monitors just aren't adequate as a critical evaluation tool, especially for an HD signal; you can use it to preview the image at low-res, and that's about it.

Chris Soucy · December 15th, 2007, 12:57 PM

You're going to be exeedingly hard pressed to find an LCD that is as sharp as the one on the camera.

The camera LCD probably has the same resolution as your external but at only 7cm diagonal has an infinitely tighter packing rate, thus higher (visual) resolution.

Plus it is running native (so no interpolation issues) plus it is a true digital connect, so no digital/ analogue/ digital conversion going on. Plus it isn't on a "crushed" composite connect either.

The best external picture you can get is from the component outputs, but few small LCD's (less than 19") have component inputs. The ones that are out there are pretty expensive.

The very short answer to your question BTW is both A/V and BNC resolutions are the same (I think), so no help there.

Back to the drawing board I'm afraid.

CS

Jeremy Naus · December 16th, 2007, 12:07 PM

OK, so if I understand even a Marshall with BNC input and 800x480 resolution will give me the same image as the DVD player?

Thanks,

Jerm

David W. Jones · December 16th, 2007, 12:22 PM

If you want to view HD instead of SD output you will need to use the component output from the A1 or SDI output from the G1 into an HD compatible monitor. The AV and composite outputs are SD.

Jeremy Naus · December 16th, 2007, 03:17 PM

OK, I think I get it.
This means that this monitor can handle the HD output of the camera, because it can input the component output of the camera, correct?

http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monito...gram.html#tabs

Thanks for the information :-)

Jack Walker · December 16th, 2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Naus

OK, I think I get it.
This means that this monitor can handle the HD output of the camera, because it can input the component output of the camera, correct?

http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monito...gram.html#tabs

Thanks for the information :-)

Yes. Here's a review of that monitor:
http://www.dv.com/reviews/reviews_it...leId=196603356

Jeremy Naus · December 19th, 2007, 02:43 AM

Does anyone have any experience in using a component to vga convertor?

I just find it stupid to pay almost 1000 euro for a small lcd screen that has component input while a big lcd with vga input sells very cheap (and has a higher resolution than the small lcd).

It's just that I'm looking for a small field monitor that I can use to focus my 35mm lenses (my 35mm adaptor flips the image and I don't want to use a flip module as I loose 1stop and I film mostly in low light).

December 15th, 2007, 12:15 PM	#1
Jeremy Naus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Posts: 60	Field monitor A/V or BNC? Hello, I want to use a Philip PET 1030 portable DVD player that I have as a field monitor (it's 10"). It can handle 800x480 resolution and has an A/V input. But when I hooked up my camera using the A/V output of the camera I got an image that was not as sharp as the LCD of the camera itself. Is it so that the A/V output of the camera is a lower resolution? If so is the BNC connector the one that gives a higher resolution output? Thanks, Jeremy

December 15th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#2
Benjamin Hill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 670	There are several different video connectors on the A1/G1s but the real problem here is likely the DVD player. Consumer LCD monitors just aren't adequate as a critical evaluation tool, especially for an HD signal; you can use it to preview the image at low-res, and that's about it. __________________ youtube.com/benhillmedia linkedin.com/in/benhillmedia

December 15th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#3
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,682 Images: 18	Hi Jeremy............. You're going to be exeedingly hard pressed to find an LCD that is as sharp as the one on the camera. The camera LCD probably has the same resolution as your external but at only 7cm diagonal has an infinitely tighter packing rate, thus higher (visual) resolution. Plus it is running native (so no interpolation issues) plus it is a true digital connect, so no digital/ analogue/ digital conversion going on. Plus it isn't on a "crushed" composite connect either. The best external picture you can get is from the component outputs, but few small LCD's (less than 19") have component inputs. The ones that are out there are pretty expensive. The very short answer to your question BTW is both A/V and BNC resolutions are the same (I think), so no help there. Back to the drawing board I'm afraid. CS

December 19th, 2007, 02:43 AM	#8
Jeremy Naus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Posts: 60	Does anyone have any experience in using a component to vga convertor? I just find it stupid to pay almost 1000 euro for a small lcd screen that has component input while a big lcd with vga input sells very cheap (and has a higher resolution than the small lcd). It's just that I'm looking for a small field monitor that I can use to focus my 35mm lenses (my 35mm adaptor flips the image and I don't want to use a flip module as I loose 1stop and I film mostly in low light). Last edited by Jeremy Naus; December 19th, 2007 at 07:56 AM.

December 16th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#4
Jeremy Naus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Posts: 60	OK, so if I understand even a Marshall with BNC input and 800x480 resolution will give me the same image as the DVD player? Thanks, Jerm

December 16th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#5
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	If you want to view HD instead of SD output you will need to use the component output from the A1 or SDI output from the G1 into an HD compatible monitor. The AV and composite outputs are SD.

December 16th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#6
Jeremy Naus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Posts: 60	OK, I think I get it. This means that this monitor can handle the HD output of the camera, because it can input the component output of the camera, correct? http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monito...gram.html#tabs Thanks for the information :-)