importing audio on the A1 at DVinfo.net

Paul Mailath · July 7th, 2007, 07:08 AM

Hi,

we're about to enter a 24hr comp where we can only edit in-camera. we plan to shoot sequentially, but the only problem we have is audio, we'd really like to create a soundscape and dub it back into the camera but I can't see a way to do that. Reading the manual I see that we can import video but all we want is to bring in the audio over the existing image - any ideas????

Don Palomaki · July 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM

Not so easy from what I know. Here is one approach.
Shooting SD mode and set to record 12-bit audio.
Borrow a GL2 and do an AUDIO DUB (it is on page 108 of the NTSC manual).

Bill Pryor · July 9th, 2007, 02:07 PM

From the manual:

•Audio cannot be dubbed using this camcorder.

I think the above suggestion is good. Shoot it in SD and get a consumer camera that allows audio dubbing. Does the competition allow that? If it allows dubbing an edited audio track and is not just a shoot-in-camera thing, then why not load your master tape into your NLE, lay in the audio and make an SD master from that?

Paul Mailath · July 9th, 2007, 09:37 PM

here are some of the rules:

NO EDITING, OTHER THAN IN CAMERA EDITING, IS ALLOWED.

� Films can be shot in sequence, i.e. in a linear manner or rewound,
previewed and taped over with drop-in shots

� Films cannot be edited by using an editing suite or by connecting several
cameras or by using a computer or any other technology other than the
one camera used to shoot the film

Filmmakers are allowed to add music, voiceovers or live sound to their
films. The sound that's to be added to the vision can be edited material.

� A soundtrack can be created on a computer, burnt to CD and brought to
the dubbing facility. Release for Use of Music External to The Shoot Out
Music Library will have to be completed and submitted with the film.

� Filmmakers cannot output sound and vision from a computer. The vision
must go directly from the camera tape to the tape. The sound cannot be
edited onto your vision. Digital Tapes have embedded time code and
technical data. Direct output from a computer can be detected.

http://www.theshootout.com.au

The submitted tape must be miniDV so what we have to do is find another camera or fight to use the dubbing facility

Bill Pryor · July 10th, 2007, 09:29 AM

That's strange. I don't see any difference between adding your edited sound track from a computer versus burning it to CD and then adding it. Seems like an unnecessary step.

In your case I'd definitely shoot SD--HDV would get you in trouble here. Almost any consumer camera that has audio inputs will allow audio dubbing. Just be very careful doing that or you could erase your tape. I don't see, however, how you're going to do that and get it into close sync without an editing deck, which is prohibited, unless it's just sort of background music. Also, unless you have 2 channel control, you may dub over all your location sound.

July 7th, 2007, 07:08 AM	#1
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,606	importing audio on the A1 Hi, we're about to enter a 24hr comp where we can only edit in-camera. we plan to shoot sequentially, but the only problem we have is audio, we'd really like to create a soundscape and dub it back into the camera but I can't see a way to do that. Reading the manual I see that we can import video but all we want is to bring in the audio over the existing image - any ideas???? __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

July 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM	#2
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	Not so easy from what I know. Here is one approach. Shooting SD mode and set to record 12-bit audio. Borrow a GL2 and do an AUDIO DUB (it is on page 108 of the NTSC manual). __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

July 9th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#4
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,606	rules here are some of the rules: NO EDITING, OTHER THAN IN CAMERA EDITING, IS ALLOWED. � Films can be shot in sequence, i.e. in a linear manner or rewound, previewed and taped over with drop-in shots � Films cannot be edited by using an editing suite or by connecting several cameras or by using a computer or any other technology other than the one camera used to shoot the film Filmmakers are allowed to add music, voiceovers or live sound to their films. The sound that's to be added to the vision can be edited material. � A soundtrack can be created on a computer, burnt to CD and brought to the dubbing facility. Release for Use of Music External to The Shoot Out Music Library will have to be completed and submitted with the film. � Filmmakers cannot output sound and vision from a computer. The vision must go directly from the camera tape to the tape. The sound cannot be edited onto your vision. Digital Tapes have embedded time code and technical data. Direct output from a computer can be detected. http://www.theshootout.com.au The submitted tape must be miniDV so what we have to do is find another camera or fight to use the dubbing facility __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

July 9th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	From the manual: •Audio cannot be dubbed using this camcorder. I think the above suggestion is good. Shoot it in SD and get a consumer camera that allows audio dubbing. Does the competition allow that? If it allows dubbing an edited audio track and is not just a shoot-in-camera thing, then why not load your master tape into your NLE, lay in the audio and make an SD master from that?

July 10th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#5
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	That's strange. I don't see any difference between adding your edited sound track from a computer versus burning it to CD and then adding it. Seems like an unnecessary step. In your case I'd definitely shoot SD--HDV would get you in trouble here. Almost any consumer camera that has audio inputs will allow audio dubbing. Just be very careful doing that or you could erase your tape. I don't see, however, how you're going to do that and get it into close sync without an editing deck, which is prohibited, unless it's just sort of background music. Also, unless you have 2 channel control, you may dub over all your location sound.