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Ian Stark August 9th, 2006 03:38 PM

I'm lucky enough to be travelling to Germany tomorrow to film the Old Timers Grand Prix at Nuerburgring. In fact I only found out half an hour ago so everything is a bit rushed!

My question is this: is the Sports preset going to work for motor sports or did you have field sports primarily in mind? I've been commissioned by a friend who wants a 'stylised' account of the event (in which he is a competitor), rather than a 'typical video' (his words). I clearly won't have time to make any tests, and as an absolute newcomer to the XL2 (four days) I was hoping for some suggestions.

Any offers? TIA.

Cheers,

Ian . . .

Julian Seeto August 13th, 2006 05:08 AM

never seems to install :(
 
hey guys, im having a problem trying to install this.
after i click on the icon to proceed with installation after the bit where it gives you the option to change installation directory, it just hangs there- cpu sits on 100% and eventually just freezes.

any help would be greatly appreciated,

thanks in advance.
julz

Jeff Geissler August 24th, 2006 12:31 PM

mac version ;)
 
Eventually I'll have an Intel mac-- but not in the foreseeable future...
Keep me posted on the mac version!!

Thanks!
~jeff

Pulung Pribadi September 5th, 2006 07:23 AM

Same problem with me
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Lim
when i use this preset manager ,this is what happen :

run-time error -2147467259 (80004005)':

what this mean ?

Guys, its happen the same with me, it happen when i try to read the preset or try to load it to my xl2, after the run-time error occured, then the preset manager shut by it self.
for you to know, my xl2 is 'pal' version, while i read that most of you guys use the 'ntsc' version, are there any possibilities that this thing that make it happen..
any one can help us please..?
Thanks alot to you all..

T.D. Jones October 22nd, 2006 10:31 AM

Anything new on the Mac version?
 
Just thought I'd check.

Thanks,

Tim

Jarrod Whaley October 22nd, 2006 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.D. Jones
Just thought I'd check.

Thanks,

Tim

Canon still hasn't released the Mac developer's kit, and at this point, I doubt they ever will. So, no. :)

Tim Suggs November 16th, 2006 06:11 PM

Trying to load Documentary preset to my XL2
 
I made sure my camera was connected properly and in the "Ext Cont" position, however when I tried to save the file to my camera, i kept getting runtime errors...

Can someone explain how I would place a file (Documentary.bbp) onto my camera?

***Update***
No driver installed, fixed it! Thanks me.


Thanks
Tim

Steve Maller November 16th, 2006 08:08 PM

Has anybody used the Presets Manager on an Intel Mac using Parallels or Boot Camp?

Steve Maller November 16th, 2006 08:15 PM

Obviously I'm referring to an Intel Mac running Windows

Chris Hurd November 16th, 2006 09:56 PM

Canon had a Console demo on an Intel Mac during the XL H1 Road Show tour earlier this summer. I saw it up close and personal; it runs fine in that configuration.

Steve Maller November 17th, 2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd
Canon had a Console demo on an Intel Mac during the XL H1 Road Show tour earlier this summer. I saw it up close and personal; it runs fine in that configuration.

Was it running under Windows on the Mac, or natively on Mac OS X?

Kevin Randolph November 21st, 2006 04:31 PM

Running on a Portable Device?
 
Okay, I've read nearly all 9 pages of posts in this thread and thought that I'd revisit a question posed earlier...

There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port. There are however several, if not close to all of them out there, that operate on a USB port. After searching around, I found a $40 USB/1394 hub at B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=370317

Now, does anyone know if it would be possible to connect the PDA to the Hub via USB, and the XL2 to the Hub via a 4 to 6 pin 1394 cable?

Now I know the one problem with this setup is that the Hub needs its own power supply. But if this setup would work, it wouldn't be the first time that I've bought a battery and cut off the 110 end of a power supply. Any thoughts???

Basically, I run a Mac system (non-intel) and don't have the resources to purchase a Wintel. The only thing I would use the Wintel for anyway is the preset manager, and if i can make it portable in an inexpensive way - all the better.

Has anyone actually loaded the program on a PDA? Does it seem to function except for the connection to the XL2?

Any and all feedback appreciated...

Kevin

***** EDIT *****

I think just answered my own question and I got too excited and posted too fast. It appears that to connect to the computer, you connect 1 1394 and 1 USB and the Hub expands each individually. The circuitry probably doesn't overlap (essentially 2 hubs in 1 housing). Does anyone know of a hub that you connect just a USB to and then can connect 1394 to the hub? Or am I simply beating a long dead horse?

Thanks again,
Kevin

Steve Maller November 21st, 2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Randolph
Okay, I've read nearly all 9 pages of posts in this thread and thought that I'd revisit a question posed earlier...

There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port.

[...]

Or am I simply beating a long dead horse?

If it walks like a fish and talks like a fish... ;-)

Chris Hurd November 21st, 2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Maller
Was it running under Windows on the Mac, or natively on Mac OS X?

The Console demo on the Intel Mac I'm referring to above was running Windows XP.

And for Kevin:

Sorry but there's no such thing as USB to FireWire or vice versa.

Somebody needs to invent a FireWire-equipped PDA, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

Kevin Randolph November 21st, 2006 11:29 PM

Not really a PDA, but...
 
While I was looking around for the elusive pda with firewire I did find this...

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...tSKU=VGNUX280P

Made by Sony, PDA size, has firewire (with included port replicator)... but not PDA priced (1900 USD).

Andy Joyce November 22nd, 2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Randolph
There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port. There are however several, if not close to all of them out there, that operate on a USB port. After searching around, I found a $40 USB/1394 hub at B&H.

----------------
Has anyone actually loaded the program on a PDA? Does it seem to function except for the connection to the XL2?

Any and all feedback appreciated...

Hey Kevin,

I like the enthusiasm here. I had it a while ago when I went to some 3d modeling developers for a mobile 3d solution. Alas, since the Pocket PC PDA is a very different type of Windows, any program need to be compiled specifically for them (unless you run a Java applet). Unless Blue Barn or someone else compiles the tool for PPC, the firewire/usb issue is the least of the problems.

I hope someone figures it out though. I can't wait to try it. Anyone need a beta tester for this?

Matt Newcomb April 7th, 2007 05:54 PM

Maybe this has already been covered, but how exactly do I set the presets. When I select them in the preset menu I see the looks change, but when I back out of the menu my display goes back to normal. This is most apparent in the B&W setting on there. So is there something I have to do to enable my preset?

Josh Bass April 7th, 2007 07:16 PM

Use the buttons on the part of the camera near the tape door, on top, right next to where it says "eject" to select the custom preset you want, and turn it on or off.

Kevin Randolph April 7th, 2007 10:57 PM

When this thread popped back up I took another look at the Sony computer I mentioned earlier - the UX series - and it runs Windows Vista Business, not the pocket pc version. So the preset manager would work on this machine - alas, there is still the problem of the price tag...

Wajahat Abbasi July 24th, 2008 07:55 AM

is there a link to download collection of all the presents posted so far?

every link given earlier is this thread is non-existing now , any help would be great

thanks

Ian Stark July 24th, 2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wajahat Abbasi (Post 911353)
is there a link to download collection of all the presents posted so far?

every link given earlier is this thread is non-existing now , any help would be great

thanks

Last post in this thread what you're looking for?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48293

Wajahat Abbasi July 26th, 2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark (Post 911356)
Last post in this thread what you're looking for?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48293


yes ! but is there any other resource (link) where i can get more presets?

Chris Hurd July 26th, 2008 11:18 AM

Nope, this is the best, most complete one on the web. What you need to do now is to create your own presets, and share them here, that way you're helping to build the collection.

Jenny Morgan July 28th, 2008 08:29 PM

Mac Version
 
GEE Canon. . .

It' only been 3 years now. . . ya got that Mac Version Done YET?

Richard Alvarez July 29th, 2008 08:24 AM

Jenny,

Stephen Duke is the designer (as I understand it) of the Blue Barn software.

Wajahat Abbasi July 29th, 2008 09:47 AM

its a great tool !!!! .. and i didnt had a PC with Windows XP on it either, but i got one from a friend and got a firewire card in it just to use this presets managers..... Jenny , i would suggest if you have space to keep a mini tower, look around on ebay or craiglist you might get a good XP machine under $50 ... its worth spending for a mangers like this !

Chris Hurd July 29th, 2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny Morgan (Post 913514)
GEE Canon. . .

Canon had nothing to do with the Blue Barn Pictures XL2 Presets Manager. The Blue Barn Pictures XL2 Presets Manager was developed by Stephen Duke of Blue Barn Pictures, not Canon.

Quote:

3 years now. . . ya got that Mac Version Done YET?
It should be obvious by now that a Mac version is *not* going to happen, sorry. There is no Mac version of the SDK that made the PC version possible in the first place. And that's certainly not the fault of Stephen Duke or Blue Barn Pictures.

David Odell August 1st, 2008 02:21 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Hi,

regarding Presents.

I have been in trouble deciding what sharpness I should keep the presents at.

Of course different situations requires different presents, but I have been mostly filming for a upcoming doc,
and since al the shots aren't 100% certain to adept to the film, I have been trying some different presents.

Mostly I go with a tweaked DOCUMENTARY presents:

Gamma = Cine
Knee = Low
Black = Press
NR = 0
VDetail = 0
Color Matrix = Cine
Color Gain = 3 / 2
Color Phase = 2 / 1
Red = 2
Green = 0
Blue = 0
SetupLevel = -1
Sharpness = -3 / -2
Coring = 6
MasterPed = +2


Although I find many of my shots to be to saturated, this doesn’t come as a surprise but I find it hard to choose the right amount of colour, to much or a bit less?
Regarding the sharpness, I'm double, off course you want 35mm/digital cam sharpness, but often I feel that a bow +0 is leaning the image to artefacts (don’t know the proper word), lines appear etc. With sharpness brought down towards -2 / -3 there’s better regarding the lines. But should one go lower? Like -4 / -5?

Here I post some examples, 1 is a macro shot with tripod (somehow, I feel that the resolution appears higher with a tripod) with the 16X manual lens and al other shots are from the manual also. 2 is shot with in 4:3 mode and here I believe the sharpness and colour are working out fine. I will post some more later. I'm a student in film, there is much to learn. But any feedback is welcomed!

Please tell what gain and sharpness you prefer, it will really help me decide.
I also love the Blue Barn tool.

Best,
David

Stephen Duke August 12th, 2008 11:37 AM

Wow, over three years and still going.

Jenny, Canon officially only released an SDK for the PC. They were working with a mac software house based out west for the mac SDK, and demoed it at NAB some time back, but as far as I'm aware it was never released. So, alas, I never ported the Presets App over.

If you are using a mac (like me), then (if it is an intel version), dual boot the system and run the presets software on the window portion (like me). You can also do this for the Canon controller software.

steve

Paul Schmidt September 18th, 2008 07:30 PM

I know I'm missing something...Newbie!!
 
Hello everyone!!
First post on a great forum!!!
Just purchased a Xl2 last week as an upgrade from a GL2 for shooting my highschool football games. As expected the footage was a bit "bland". I was going to try some different presets and then saw the Blue Barn Custom preset software. I had to download the manager a bit differently as I'm running Vista on my internet computer. I downloaded the manager and preset onto a flash drive, and then downloaded them onto my other comp which is running XP with SP3. Everything went perfect and the download to the camera with the manager and drivers was complete.

Now for the nubie problem.
How do I get the individual preset into the camera????? I've been following the manual on pages 70-72 and I must be doing something wrong.
On page 72 where it says to go to "read preset" I can't open that area of the menu. It is always the purple color which must mean that that particular function is not turned on.
For the life of me I cannot figure how do to turn that function on.
And then how do I download the preset into the cam?

I know that I'm just overlooking something simple, but then it's the simple things that baffle me!!!

Terry Shaw September 18th, 2008 10:31 PM

Hi Paul,

It sounds like you may have to reinstall the software.
As I remember the same thing happened to me the first time I tryed to use the Presets Manager. Its a great program. Goodluck!

Terry

Paul Schmidt September 21st, 2008 07:39 AM

Thanks Terry... I redownloaded it and then it worked perfect. Your right, what a program!!

Andy Joyce March 22nd, 2010 07:59 PM

no preset files any more
 
Wow it looks like the activity is stale on this product. Too bad since it's a cool app. Anyone still have the presets from the presets library? It looks like that link goes to a generic page now.


http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48287

No Topic specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

Chris Hurd March 22nd, 2010 08:23 PM

Run, don't walk, to this link:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xl...tml#post337887

And this link:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xl...tml#post699623

Andy Joyce March 22nd, 2010 11:14 PM

Dude, you rock. Thanks for keeping such a great site alive all these years. I still love my XL2.

By the way, what is your favorite uprez software or technique to turn XL2 SD into HD (pseudo-HD)?

Rob Bolton December 13th, 2010 06:10 PM

Is this software still available for download? I click the download link but it just keeps re-opening the page in another window.

Thanks,
Rob


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