Sony/Canon Dub -- It Works!

Daniel Epstein · March 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM

Glad to hear it. Funny how that happens. One cable or switch and they don't let you in the menu. Useful trick to remember. This is true in the camera section as well. Some menus are greyed out in some modes.
So you are getting identical timecode ie Clone? Or are you just getting a dub. My reading of the Sony DSR-1500A manuals seemed to imply no cloning from DV. Ie timecode is not identical. Of course Sony never implemented timecode in DV (like Panasonic and Canon) reserving timecode for DVCAM.

Brad Schreiber · March 26th, 2006, 04:56 PM

I had three timecode breaks on the tape, they all went down flawlessly. I set the TC to Ext. Regen.

Funny thing though, the dub came down as 4x3, even though I shot at 16x9. I have to get that worked out, or find another workflow. Can't have any 4x3 nonsense on my project. Is that just a preset of the XLH1 downconvert, or is there a toggle for 16x9 DV downconvert output?

Vincent Rozenberg · March 26th, 2006, 05:01 PM

What do you mean by 4:3? Cropped or the Squeezed image? Squeezed is how SD handles 16:9 footage.

Chris Hurd · March 26th, 2006, 05:02 PM

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Is that just a preset of the XLH1 downconvert, or is there a toggle for 16x9 DV downconvert output?

Unfortunately there is neither. The XL H1 will not "letterbox" the 16:9 video downconversion to SD over FireWire. It assumes that you want the full vertical resolution, so you're seeing a spaghetti western (squeezed) unless you're going to a widescreen display. Will the Sony deck add the letterbox for you?

K. Forman · March 26th, 2006, 05:02 PM

Just curious... but would a firestore be able to capture HD in 24f? And what bitrate would it be?

Brad Schreiber · March 26th, 2006, 05:11 PM

Your right, I checked against the image and it is squeezed. Is there a way anyone has found to beat this problem? I could fix it after cutting with some rezie effects, but I'd rather not have to go that route if I can help it.

Barlow Elton · March 26th, 2006, 06:09 PM

Try your sequence settings and check the anamorphic box.

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Brad Schreiber Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 96	Squeezed it is. Your right, I checked against the image and it is squeezed. Is there a way anyone has found to beat this problem? I could fix it after cutting with some rezie effects, but I'd rather not have to go that route if I can help it.

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March 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#16
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Glad to hear it. Funny how that happens. One cable or switch and they don't let you in the menu. Useful trick to remember. This is true in the camera section as well. Some menus are greyed out in some modes. So you are getting identical timecode ie Clone? Or are you just getting a dub. My reading of the Sony DSR-1500A manuals seemed to imply no cloning from DV. Ie timecode is not identical. Of course Sony never implemented timecode in DV (like Panasonic and Canon) reserving timecode for DVCAM.

March 26th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#17
Brad Schreiber Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 96	I had three timecode breaks on the tape, they all went down flawlessly. I set the TC to Ext. Regen. Funny thing though, the dub came down as 4x3, even though I shot at 16x9. I have to get that worked out, or find another workflow. Can't have any 4x3 nonsense on my project. Is that just a preset of the XLH1 downconvert, or is there a toggle for 16x9 DV downconvert output?

March 26th, 2006, 05:01 PM	#18
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	What do you mean by 4:3? Cropped or the Squeezed image? Squeezed is how SD handles 16:9 footage.

March 26th, 2006, 06:09 PM	#22
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Try your sequence settings and check the anamorphic box.