Playing Canon 60i footage on Sony HDV decks at DVinfo.net

Eric Temple · March 16th, 2007, 10:50 AM

Does anyone else have trouble playing their Canon 60i footage on Sony decks? I've tried two different Sony decks... the SONY HVRM25U and the
Sony M10U... both displayed the time code and audio, but the video would just play intermittently and freeze randomly. Playback on the XLH1 is fine and the footage also played on a Sony Z1 camera. This is my second camera and it is brand new. (The first was replaced by Canon for different problems.) I really want to like this camera, but I need compatibility. Thanks for any advice.

Eric

Matthew Roddy · March 16th, 2007, 12:12 PM

I haven't had any problems so far, but I haven't run much footage through my M20u. The Z1u has (as I understand it) the same guts as the M10. So if it plays on you Z1, it SHOULD play on your M10. Odd that it doesn't.

Colin McFadden · March 16th, 2007, 02:32 PM

I've played loads of XL-H1 tapes on Sony M15s without any trouble. Don't have an M10 or M25 to test with, but the 15 has been great.

Sounds like you're running into tape dropouts or something - have you tried a few tapes?

R.W. Swanson · March 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM

I think it's a head alignment issue. I have the same problem w/ my XL2.

Daniel Epstein · March 17th, 2007, 09:11 AM

RW is correct. You should have Canon check out your camera because it sounds like it is out of alignment. This crops up from time to time. You probably have the same problem in DV as well as HDV.

Steve Wolla · March 18th, 2007, 01:28 AM

Bingo, that is exactly what the issue is. That crops up from time to time also when going from brand to brand. For example, my Pana-made tapes will not always play back smoothly on a sony deck, and will never play back on my company's JVC. Playback head alignment diffrences are the likely culprit.
It's been my observation that usually Sony decks will play back Sony cam-made tapes with no problem, Pana decks same with Pana cams, etc.

Eric Temple · March 18th, 2007, 07:41 AM

Thanks everyone. I'll send the camera back to canon for alignment. If that doesn't work, somebody will get a good deal on an XLH1 on Ebay!

Mick Jenner · March 18th, 2007, 10:45 AM

HI,

Check my thread out on the thin black line forum about this issue, you will find its an aleignment problem with the canon

Regards

Mick

Heath McKnight · March 18th, 2007, 05:09 PM

I can play 60i, but not 24f on any Sony HDV deck, but I never tried 30f, sorry!

heath

R.W. Swanson · March 19th, 2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

I can play 60i, but not 24f on any Sony HDV deck, but I never tried 30f, sorry!

heath

That's (I think) is due to the way Canon captures 24F, save for Canon's HDVs, there aint a deck on the planet that understand that "F" code.

Heath McKnight · March 19th, 2007, 09:49 PM

And Canon doesn't make a deck. I'll bet someone will make a deck that supports the "F" setting.

heath

Scott Hayes · March 25th, 2007, 05:53 AM

i played back tapes shot at 60i on my HC1 yesterday, no problem.

Heath McKnight · March 25th, 2007, 07:55 AM

HC1, as in Sony HDR-HC1?

heath

Scott Hayes · March 25th, 2007, 09:38 AM

Heath, yes.

Heath McKnight · March 25th, 2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hayes

Heath, yes.

Did you play it back on a Sony HDV deck or a Canon HDV camera?

heath

March 16th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#1
Eric Temple Tourist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 3	Playing Canon 60i footage on Sony HDV decks Does anyone else have trouble playing their Canon 60i footage on Sony decks? I've tried two different Sony decks... the SONY HVRM25U and the Sony M10U... both displayed the time code and audio, but the video would just play intermittently and freeze randomly. Playback on the XLH1 is fine and the footage also played on a Sony Z1 camera. This is my second camera and it is brand new. (The first was replaced by Canon for different problems.) I really want to like this camera, but I need compatibility. Thanks for any advice. Eric

March 16th, 2007, 02:32 PM	#3
Colin McFadden Sponsor: divergent media Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 201	I've played loads of XL-H1 tapes on Sony M15s without any trouble. Don't have an M10 or M25 to test with, but the 15 has been great. Sounds like you're running into tape dropouts or something - have you tried a few tapes? __________________ Divergent Media Support www.divergentmedia.com

March 18th, 2007, 07:41 AM	#7
Eric Temple Tourist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 3	Thanks Thanks everyone. I'll send the camera back to canon for alignment. If that doesn't work, somebody will get a good deal on an XLH1 on Ebay!

March 18th, 2007, 05:09 PM	#9
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I can play 60i, but not 24f on any Sony HDV deck, but I never tried 30f, sorry! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 19th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#11
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	And Canon doesn't make a deck. I'll bet someone will make a deck that supports the "F" setting. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 16th, 2007, 12:12 PM	#2
Matthew Roddy Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Riverside, Ca Posts: 307	I haven't had any problems so far, but I haven't run much footage through my M20u. The Z1u has (as I understand it) the same guts as the M10. So if it plays on you Z1, it SHOULD play on your M10. Odd that it doesn't.

March 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#4
R.W. Swanson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: los angeles Posts: 38	I think it's a head alignment issue. I have the same problem w/ my XL2.

March 17th, 2007, 09:11 AM	#5
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	RW is correct. You should have Canon check out your camera because it sounds like it is out of alignment. This crops up from time to time. You probably have the same problem in DV as well as HDV.

March 18th, 2007, 01:28 AM	#6
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	Bingo, that is exactly what the issue is. That crops up from time to time also when going from brand to brand. For example, my Pana-made tapes will not always play back smoothly on a sony deck, and will never play back on my company's JVC. Playback head alignment diffrences are the likely culprit. It's been my observation that usually Sony decks will play back Sony cam-made tapes with no problem, Pana decks same with Pana cams, etc.

March 18th, 2007, 10:45 AM	#8
Mick Jenner Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: West Sussex England Posts: 843	HI, Check my thread out on the thin black line forum about this issue, you will find its an aleignment problem with the canon Regards Mick

March 25th, 2007, 05:53 AM	#12
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	i played back tapes shot at 60i on my HC1 yesterday, no problem.

March 25th, 2007, 07:55 AM	#13
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	HC1, as in Sony HDR-HC1? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 25th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#14
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	Heath, yes.