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David Newman September 15th, 2007 09:04 AM

That's cool, anyone care to do some research to determine where Vegas expects to find timecode. While we have plenty of other engineering projects, it will be one less thing in the way.

Seth Bloombaum September 15th, 2007 07:46 PM

Gotta' have timecode as laid down on tape!

Just one vote, but lack of same keeps me away from Cineform for multicam and/or dual system sound. If you follow the recent discussions in the Audio forum, timecode sync is a very hot topic. Many people seem to be using Vegas and liking its robust recognition and sync abilities.

Marcus van Bavel September 16th, 2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 744784)
That's cool, anyone care to do some research to determine where Vegas expects to find timecode. While we have plenty of other engineering projects, it will be one less thing in the way.

Dave Hill at Sony can give you the info :) Marcus

David Newman September 16th, 2007 04:31 PM

Thanks Marcus,

I speak to Dave Hill a lot, I never think to ask on this one.

Peter Plevritis September 17th, 2007 02:21 AM

Great! Thanks Marcus. Thanks David.

Maybe we can get this soon.

Pete

Marc Salvatore September 19th, 2007 11:15 PM

"Higher" setting in Vegas?
 
Just bought NEO HDV and noticed that when I render to a Cineform Intermediate AVI in Vegas I have an extra quality setting in the codec settings that HD Link does not have.

HD Link = Low, Medium, High, Film Scan 1, Film Scan 2
Vegas = Low, Medium, High, Higher, Film Scan 1, Film Scan 2

David any info on this?

Thanks,

Marc

David Newman September 20th, 2007 09:20 AM

Higher is a special version of "High" used for 1920x1080 images that are very detailed -- otherwise it is identical to High. It might go away it future versions as we no longer need this mode (it was before we had Filmscan.)

Hugh Mobley September 20th, 2007 09:39 AM

I have NEO HDV and I don't see a "Higher" in the quality drop down, Am I missing something

David Newman September 20th, 2007 09:59 AM

Likely looking at a different pulldown, but you are not missing anything.

Marc Salvatore September 20th, 2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Mobley (Post 747288)
I have NEO HDV and I don't see a "Higher" in the quality drop down, Am I missing something

Thanks David. Hugh, it's only viewable when configuring the Cineform codec from within Sony Vegas.

Marc

Ernanio Mandlate September 20th, 2007 07:49 PM

I shot a video in 24F/30F with a Canon XH-A1 and captured it with cineform neo-hdv converted it to 1280*720, with a Medium quality setting, would that be sufficient to do some good color grading in After Effects?

David Taylor September 20th, 2007 11:38 PM

Ernanio, if you're going to be pushing the image quite a bit in post we'd generally recommend you use the High setting, or if you're a quality perfectionist use our Film Scan setting. Each step "up" on quality settings makes larger files by about 10%-15%.

Hugh Mobley September 21st, 2007 12:04 AM

I still have a problem,

I want to add something here RE: V8 crashing, My problem has been when I use Cineform clips (avi) filmscan1 and put them on my timeline, I can save them to a veg. file if I don't render out. I renamed the cfhd.dll. thought it helped until last night. everything was OK until I rendered to a wmv HD file. I did multiple renders on this one veg. file. mpeg2 ntsc was ok, but after the wmv render same problem again, I could get the veg. file to open to 22% then crash, it hangs then all the files open, I click the pop up saying there is problem, crash. Using m2t clips are no problem at all. I tried to get V8 to crash, wouldn't. I can render them into anything and there is no problem. I can go back and put the cineform avi clips back on my timeline, re-do everything and that works, for a while. then crashes again. the computer I am on is a new clean install xp sp2 just for V8, so all programs are newly installed including NEO HDV. are my issues close to anyone else's issues? V7 no issues what so ever. To me, its between V8 and cineform.

Ernanio Mandlate September 21st, 2007 02:16 AM

Yes, i'm trying to find a balance between space usage and quality for post. I would love to use the "film scan" setting, but if when i convert 200MB m2t to cineform avi in "High" quality setting I get something like double the file size that's hard for me to manage. But I gotta admit, cineform is a lifesaver.

James Campbell September 21st, 2007 07:49 AM

Wow, doesn't sound good, but I'm using Cineform (with Vegas 8) Filmscan avi's and I've rendered into wmv, mpg-2, avi, mp4 without any problems.


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