Prem Pro 3: playback jumps to last frame at DVinfo.net

Gildo Houtekamer · October 14th, 2007, 08:03 AM

When I try to play a cinefrom avi in the timeline [Cineform project] it skips immediately to the last frame of the clip.
Searched the forum but couldn't find it, because I am sure I have read about this a couple of months ago.
Anyone?

David Newman · October 14th, 2007, 10:17 AM

Which CineForm software? What clip type? Does the same clip do it when when it a different drive or path? Sort questions support will require of you when you file a ticket over a www.cineform.com/support.

Marty Hudzik · October 14th, 2007, 10:50 AM

I'm sorry to say but this is an issue that crops up with Cineform and Premiere very often. I have seen it regularly in Premiere Pro 1.5 and Premiere Pro 2.0 only when using Aspect HD (different versions over the course of 18months). It appears it has followed to Cs3 also.

David has said in the past that it is usually caused by something wrong in the timeline. I can never seem to find anything wrong and I usually have to save the project, create a new Premiere Project with the same settings and then import the old project to get around this glitch.

I will say that on 1 or 2 occasions I have added a clip to the timeline and immediately started getting this glitch. I immediately hit undo and the glitch goes away. I sometimes have to make a minor edit to the clip before I import it and it will work. So there is something that cineform doesn't like about the clip being added, but I don't know what it is exactly.

What I do know is that Premiere Pro 2.0 and CS3 have "never" done this to me when editing in native HDV mode. So I am 99% sure that there is something about the Cineform plug-in that causes this, or at the very least, exposes a bug in the adobe software.

Good Luck.

Marty

David Newman · October 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM

Marty,

There are fewer and fewer senarios that cause this now. We try not to except things that just happen, and want to get to the bottom of it. Jump to the end does mean that something is bad on the timeline, it could be a bad clip or a bad path, or something, but it is always something. We just fixed one in CS3, which handing our plug-in a corrupt path (Adobe has added it to their bug list.)

Carl Middleton · October 14th, 2007, 11:14 AM

Hey guys,

I've actually seen that quite a bit without Cineform, in PP1.5 & 2.0. I've actually not seen that happen since I bought Cineform. :D

C

Gildo Houtekamer · October 14th, 2007, 11:38 AM

Re-importing the project in a new one as Marty suggested, didn't fix the issue.
I am trying to recapture to see what happens.
To be clear: Using the trial -and latest- version of Aspect HD.
All help appreciated by the way

Gildo Houtekamer · October 14th, 2007, 01:42 PM

Recapturing showed some serious issues; no clips could be captured without error messages.
Guess I'll have to look deeper into this matter regarding the pc.

David Newman · October 14th, 2007, 04:12 PM

Sounding more like a local disk or PC issue. Start with HDLink capturing M2T files, and work your way up to AVIs through conversion, then real-time AVI capture, to help work out what is failing.

Marty Hudzik · October 14th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Everyone's experience is different. I guess I just have had the misfortune of it happening during CIneform projects only. Haven't seen it with native presets.

However I will say this happens primarily when I am doing motion graphic work. Not a lot of true video, more of a create short commercials out of Illustrator titles, PSD files and qt jumpbacks. That is when it usually rears is ugly head. Most true "video" editing doesn't cause this issue. At least for me so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Middleton

Hey guys,

I've actually seen that quite a bit without Cineform, in PP1.5 & 2.0. I've actually not seen that happen since I bought Cineform. :D

C

Peter Ferling · October 14th, 2007, 08:47 PM

Hard to nail it down. That last time it happened is when I applied a simple CF crossfade. I undid the last step and continued to edit. Came back reapplied and rendered. Strange.

Gildo Houtekamer · October 15th, 2007, 05:02 AM

Following up the steps from David.
Posting results later on.
Thanks to all you guys!

Gildo Houtekamer · October 17th, 2007, 12:43 PM

Update:
The pc was infected with a virus, after cleaning everything is working well now, capturing and playback in Premiere Pro like i am used to.
Many thanks for help.

October 14th, 2007, 08:03 AM	#1
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Prem Pro 3: playback jumps to last frame When I try to play a cinefrom avi in the timeline [Cineform project] it skips immediately to the last frame of the clip. Searched the forum but couldn't find it, because I am sure I have read about this a couple of months ago. Anyone?

October 14th, 2007, 10:17 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Which CineForm software? What clip type? Does the same clip do it when when it a different drive or path? Sort questions support will require of you when you file a ticket over a www.cineform.com/support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 14th, 2007, 10:56 AM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Marty, There are fewer and fewer senarios that cause this now. We try not to except things that just happen, and want to get to the bottom of it. Jump to the end does mean that something is bad on the timeline, it could be a bad clip or a bad path, or something, but it is always something. We just fixed one in CS3, which handing our plug-in a corrupt path (Adobe has added it to their bug list.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 14th, 2007, 04:12 PM	#8
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Sounding more like a local disk or PC issue. Start with HDLink capturing M2T files, and work your way up to AVIs through conversion, then real-time AVI capture, to help work out what is failing. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 14th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#10
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Hard to nail it down. That last time it happened is when I applied a simple CF crossfade. I undid the last step and continued to edit. Came back reapplied and rendered. Strange. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

October 14th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#3
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I'm sorry to say but this is an issue that crops up with Cineform and Premiere very often. I have seen it regularly in Premiere Pro 1.5 and Premiere Pro 2.0 only when using Aspect HD (different versions over the course of 18months). It appears it has followed to Cs3 also. David has said in the past that it is usually caused by something wrong in the timeline. I can never seem to find anything wrong and I usually have to save the project, create a new Premiere Project with the same settings and then import the old project to get around this glitch. I will say that on 1 or 2 occasions I have added a clip to the timeline and immediately started getting this glitch. I immediately hit undo and the glitch goes away. I sometimes have to make a minor edit to the clip before I import it and it will work. So there is something that cineform doesn't like about the clip being added, but I don't know what it is exactly. What I do know is that Premiere Pro 2.0 and CS3 have "never" done this to me when editing in native HDV mode. So I am 99% sure that there is something about the Cineform plug-in that causes this, or at the very least, exposes a bug in the adobe software. Good Luck. Marty

October 14th, 2007, 11:14 AM	#5
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Hey guys, I've actually seen that quite a bit without Cineform, in PP1.5 & 2.0. I've actually not seen that happen since I bought Cineform. :D C

October 14th, 2007, 11:38 AM	#6
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Re-importing the project in a new one as Marty suggested, didn't fix the issue. I am trying to recapture to see what happens. To be clear: Using the trial -and latest- version of Aspect HD. All help appreciated by the way

October 14th, 2007, 01:42 PM	#7
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Recapturing showed some serious issues; no clips could be captured without error messages. Guess I'll have to look deeper into this matter regarding the pc.

October 15th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#11
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Following up the steps from David. Posting results later on. Thanks to all you guys!

October 17th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#12
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Update: The pc was infected with a virus, after cleaning everything is working well now, capturing and playback in Premiere Pro like i am used to. Many thanks for help.