Getting watermarks in FCP with titles etc. at DVinfo.net

Chris Lakes · June 12th, 2009, 07:08 PM

Hi,

just switched over to FC from PP so it is probably me ... but, when I add titles, or non-Cineform stock footage into my Final Cut project, I'm getting Cineform's logos as watermarks in the 4 corners.

Why? I'm not encoding, I don't think.

I own Prospect 4K for windows. Footage was shot with the SI-2K, and on my windows laptop converted from AVI to MOV with HDLink. I downloaded the Cineform codec for Mac (cineform footage seems to be working fine) but if I drop stock footage or try to make titles or even leave a black space I get those Cineform logos.

Help?
Thanks!

Craig Davidson · June 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM

FCP always renders. If you have a CineForm timeline, FCP will render blank frames and various slugs which will create the watermarks. If you add non-CineForm material, FCP will render it before you can play.

Chris Lakes · June 13th, 2009, 02:18 AM

Thanks.

Not sure I follow. In fact I don't follow. Is there a way to work with other footage on a Cineform timeline or do I have to convert it all to Cineform?

Cheers.

Edit: I didn't have this issue in Premiere Pro. I could import stills and create black frames without this issue. Then again, I've probably had a Cineform license for P2K or P4K on any machine I've used.

OK, I guess I get it. That sucks, a little.

Craig Davidson · June 17th, 2009, 12:11 AM

You should be able to use non-CineForm source in a CF timeline. FCP will say the material needs rendering before it will play, and once you do that, you get the logos. Black is not just black, but a black frame that is encoded using the CineForm encoder, and repeated as needed for a slug.

It sucks, but that is the FCP does things.

You might try to drop everything onto a ProRes timeline instead. It often will let you play CineForm, and the render bits - black frames and titles - will not have watermarks.

Chris Lakes · June 24th, 2009, 02:34 AM

Thanks, yes. That's what I've had to do. I have P4K on my windoze laptop, but not on the Mac I'm editing on. I'm basically just rendering each clip that I drop into the prores timeline, and I have another Cineform timeline where I work with the bulk of the material for rough assembly.

Cheers.

June 12th, 2009, 07:08 PM	#1
Chris Lakes Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	Getting watermarks in FCP with titles etc. Hi, just switched over to FC from PP so it is probably me ... but, when I add titles, or non-Cineform stock footage into my Final Cut project, I'm getting Cineform's logos as watermarks in the 4 corners. Why? I'm not encoding, I don't think. I own Prospect 4K for windows. Footage was shot with the SI-2K, and on my windows laptop converted from AVI to MOV with HDLink. I downloaded the Cineform codec for Mac (cineform footage seems to be working fine) but if I drop stock footage or try to make titles or even leave a black space I get those Cineform logos. Help? Thanks! __________________ www.marsunited.com

June 13th, 2009, 02:18 AM	#3
Chris Lakes Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	Thanks. Not sure I follow. In fact I don't follow. Is there a way to work with other footage on a Cineform timeline or do I have to convert it all to Cineform? Cheers. Edit: I didn't have this issue in Premiere Pro. I could import stills and create black frames without this issue. Then again, I've probably had a Cineform license for P2K or P4K on any machine I've used. OK, I guess I get it. That sucks, a little. __________________ www.marsunited.com Last edited by Chris Lakes; June 13th, 2009 at 10:21 AM.

June 24th, 2009, 02:34 AM	#5
Chris Lakes Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	Thanks, yes. That's what I've had to do. I have P4K on my windoze laptop, but not on the Mac I'm editing on. I'm basically just rendering each clip that I drop into the prores timeline, and I have another Cineform timeline where I work with the bulk of the material for rough assembly. Cheers. __________________ www.marsunited.com

June 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM	#2
Craig Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 142	FCP always renders. If you have a CineForm timeline, FCP will render blank frames and various slugs which will create the watermarks. If you add non-CineForm material, FCP will render it before you can play.

June 17th, 2009, 12:11 AM	#4
Craig Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 142	You should be able to use non-CineForm source in a CF timeline. FCP will say the material needs rendering before it will play, and once you do that, you get the logos. Black is not just black, but a black frame that is encoded using the CineForm encoder, and repeated as needed for a slug. It sucks, but that is the FCP does things. You might try to drop everything onto a ProRes timeline instead. It often will let you play CineForm, and the render bits - black frames and titles - will not have watermarks.