XP32 >WIN 7-64bit migration w/ LapLink PCmover at DVinfo.net

Stephen Armour · September 16th, 2009, 10:06 AM

Anybody have further info on migrating from XP32 to Win 7-64 using LapLinks PCmover? ON paper it sure looks good and may be a solution to some not wanting to lose time and settings, but...even if LapLink is a MS Gold Certified Partner, that's a lot of variables.

Also, could this affect our current Prospect and CSx installations? Maybe migrating to another installation on the same system would be safer?

Anybody have any info on this new prog from these old-timers at LapLink? These guys might be the key to Win 7 actually making it big. Who wants to test it on a new partition in their system?

Take a look: Laplink Software - Press Releases - Laplink Solves Windows 7 Upgrade Problem for Under $20

Robert Young · September 16th, 2009, 09:19 PM

I read the press release.
Hmmm... seems like a very tall order to me.
I think you should go first, Stephen ;-)

Graham Hickling · September 16th, 2009, 10:43 PM

You would definitely need to deauthorize your Cineform app - it monitors hardware and OS to generate a system code - this will change on your new system. Just reauthorize once you are up and running again.

Robert Young · September 17th, 2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Graham Hickling

You would definitely need to deauthorize your Cineform app - it monitors hardware and OS to generate a system code - this will change on your new system. Just reauthorize once you are up and running again.

Would this also be necessary if you simply upgrade Vista 64 system to Win 7 64??

Graham Hickling · September 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM

Not sure ..... it has always been hardware or driver changes that have tripped me up, but since it is such a quick process, I would still recommend de- and re-authorizing to be on the safe side. The Cineform folks would know for sure.

Robert Young · September 18th, 2009, 01:40 AM

Hmmm... that raises the question re all the other authorized/activated software as well- Adobe, etc.
I'm sure we'll start hearing a lot more about it after win 7 is actually released next month.
Certainly worth checking into carefully before doing the upgrade.

Ian Lewis · September 18th, 2009, 02:34 AM

I've always found that clean installs are always less work in the long run. Even though oit feels like a hassle at the time. And you get a faster system (for a while) with all the cr** out of the way. I'd be worried about the tiny things that program movers left out or scrambled and you didn't find out until later. I tend to set up dual boots wityh the old setup and gradually move my useage habits over to the new install.

Stephen Armour · September 18th, 2009, 04:05 PM

It's hard to believe they can even do it, but..........LapLink are certainly heavyhitters and know their stuff. If anyone could do it, those old buzzards probably could...

But, I figured Robert should be the first victim. Since he bled so much with CS4, he's used to it...

Robert Young · September 18th, 2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Armour

But, I figured Robert should be the first victim. Since he bled so much with CS4, he's used to it...

Nah... I'm retiring the XP32/CS3 system to the back up farm. I'm undecided about upgrading the Vista 64 to Win 7 64, vs. clean install of Win7 for my i7 system.
I think I will wait & watch what happens to others. Truth of the matter is that CS4/PHD 4 is actually working quite well with Vista 64/ 12 GB RAM right now, so I'm not cornered yet!!

Stephen Armour · September 18th, 2009, 06:10 PM

We'll probably leap soon to actually using the CS4 install on the x64 machine it's sitting on. Just been dragging our feet as we're trying to finish up the 4th episode of a 12-episode series and launch the first 4 in English.

I hated to even think of hassles like CS4 while we're trying to set up for getting material for the first 20 languages to be dubbed/subtitled, but we really need that CS4/Prospect machine actually functioning correctly, before relying on it.

I've had this hope Adobe was going to do a corrective early launch of CS5 and we'd all upgrade at once, but now I don't think they'll do it. There's too few info leaks getting out of Adobe to actually give serious hope for that happening.

Tnx Robert, you give me some hope of actually using CS4 for real work. Now if I just had a couple of EX3's...things would really be looking up. I know you like your's...

Matt Vanecek · September 19th, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Young

Would this also be necessary if you simply upgrade Vista 64 system to Win 7 64??

not if you upgrade in place. If you reformat and install from scratch, you'll need to deactivate (like I just forgot to do... *sigh*).

Thanks,
Matt

Robert Young · September 20th, 2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Vanecek

not if you upgrade in place. If you reformat and install from scratch, you'll need to deactivate (like I just forgot to do... *sigh*).

Thanks,
Matt

Good news indeed. Thanks Matt.
The only real question is going to be whether or not Win 7 can successfully entwine its tentacals around all of the software I currently have on board, whilst simultaneously extracting all the vestiges of Vista 64.
I think I will image my existing system drive to back up, and then just throw caution to the winds & see what happens.
Stephen- Premiere CS4 has been much maligned, but it has a good look & feel to it, and some nice features. The major annoying problems I had with CS3/ XP 32/ PHD 3.x are non-existant on this system. Most of my problems early on had more to do with getting CF and CS4 to work together. We seem to be getting past that with the latest CF versions.

Stephen Armour · September 20th, 2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Young

Good news indeed. Thanks Matt.
The only real question is going to be whether or not Win 7 can successfully entwine its tentacals around all of the software I currently have on board, whilst simultaneously extracting all the vestiges of Vista 64.
I think I will image my existing system drive to back up, and then just throw caution to the winds & see what happens.
Stephen- Premiere CS4 has been much maligned, but it has a good look & feel to it, and some nice features. The major annoying problems I had with CS3/ XP 32/ PHD 3.x are non-existant on this system. Most of my problems early on had more to do with getting CF and CS4 to work together. We seem to be getting past that with the latest CF versions.

Robert, that LapLink software does "in place" and it seems they are the only show in town doing it correctly, at least according to the MS guy I saw that mentioned them. That's why it caught my eye. "In place" upgrades are still risky and they seem to have made it a bit less risky.

Marty Baggen · September 21st, 2009, 11:26 AM

It's my understanding that the retail release installation of Win 7 must be a fresh install from the Release Candidate version.

Would LapLink allow an in place installation in lieu of a completely fresh installation on a system with the RC version?

Robert Young · September 21st, 2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Armour

Robert, that LapLink software does "in place" and it seems they are the only show in town doing it correctly, at least according to the MS guy I saw that mentioned them. That's why it caught my eye. "In place" upgrades are still risky and they seem to have made it a bit less risky.

Looking again at the press release, it looks like their focus is on upgrading XP, and Vista 32 to Win 7 64. My understanding is that these are indeed tricky & risky OS conversions. In my case I will be upgrading Vista 64 to Win 7 64, which has been billed by MS and others as a "no brainer".
We'll see about that.
It is plausable, since Win 7 is supposed to be just a streamlined/ refined version of Vista. So, the story goes, if you stay in the same class (Vista 32 Home Premium> Win 7 32 Home Premium; Vista 64 Home Premium> etc., etc...), the upgrade is supposed to be easy & quick. I've read a couple of reviews where the upgrade was easily done with the RC version- but none of the reviewers had NLE suites on board.
As is usual with this stuff, it will be a step into the unknown for each of us I'm sure.

September 16th, 2009, 10:06 AM	#1
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	XP32 >WIN 7-64bit migration w/ LapLink PCmover Anybody have further info on migrating from XP32 to Win 7-64 using LapLinks PCmover? ON paper it sure looks good and may be a solution to some not wanting to lose time and settings, but...even if LapLink is a MS Gold Certified Partner, that's a lot of variables. Also, could this affect our current Prospect and CSx installations? Maybe migrating to another installation on the same system would be safer? Anybody have any info on this new prog from these old-timers at LapLink? These guys might be the key to Win 7 actually making it big. Who wants to test it on a new partition in their system? Take a look: Laplink Software - Press Releases - Laplink Solves Windows 7 Upgrade Problem for Under $20 __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

September 16th, 2009, 09:19 PM	#2
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	I read the press release. Hmmm... seems like a very tall order to me. I think you should go first, Stephen ;-) __________________ Bob

September 18th, 2009, 01:40 AM	#6
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	Hmmm... that raises the question re all the other authorized/activated software as well- Adobe, etc. I'm sure we'll start hearing a lot more about it after win 7 is actually released next month. Certainly worth checking into carefully before doing the upgrade. __________________ Bob

September 18th, 2009, 04:05 PM	#8
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	It's hard to believe they can even do it, but..........LapLink are certainly heavyhitters and know their stuff. If anyone could do it, those old buzzards probably could... But, I figured Robert should be the first victim. Since he bled so much with CS4, he's used to it... __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

September 18th, 2009, 06:10 PM	#10
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	We'll probably leap soon to actually using the CS4 install on the x64 machine it's sitting on. Just been dragging our feet as we're trying to finish up the 4th episode of a 12-episode series and launch the first 4 in English. I hated to even think of hassles like CS4 while we're trying to set up for getting material for the first 20 languages to be dubbed/subtitled, but we really need that CS4/Prospect machine actually functioning correctly, before relying on it. I've had this hope Adobe was going to do a corrective early launch of CS5 and we'd all upgrade at once, but now I don't think they'll do it. There's too few info leaks getting out of Adobe to actually give serious hope for that happening. Tnx Robert, you give me some hope of actually using CS4 for real work. Now if I just had a couple of EX3's...things would really be looking up. I know you like your's... __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

September 16th, 2009, 10:43 PM	#3
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	You would definitely need to deauthorize your Cineform app - it monitors hardware and OS to generate a system code - this will change on your new system. Just reauthorize once you are up and running again.

September 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM	#5
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Not sure ..... it has always been hardware or driver changes that have tripped me up, but since it is such a quick process, I would still recommend de- and re-authorizing to be on the safe side. The Cineform folks would know for sure.

September 18th, 2009, 02:34 AM	#7
Ian Lewis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Farnham, UK Posts: 87	I've always found that clean installs are always less work in the long run. Even though oit feels like a hassle at the time. And you get a faster system (for a while) with all the cr** out of the way. I'd be worried about the tiny things that program movers left out or scrambled and you didn't find out until later. I tend to set up dual boots wityh the old setup and gradually move my useage habits over to the new install.

September 21st, 2009, 11:26 AM	#14
Marty Baggen Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: monroe, or Posts: 572	It's my understanding that the retail release installation of Win 7 must be a fresh install from the Release Candidate version. Would LapLink allow an in place installation in lieu of a completely fresh installation on a system with the RC version?