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Old July 16th, 2019, 06:08 PM   #16
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Re: ProRes RAW support?

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Third party is still a workable solution, unlike no solution whatsoever.
You implied that Premiere directly supported BRAW but not specifying that this support is provided by a third party. That was my only point.

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Weird that you didn't list the applications:
Didn't need to list them. The point is this: more applications currently provide direct support for ProRes Raw then BRAW. Simple numbers really. DaVinci is the only one (1) with direct support at this moment.

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Tt's on Atomos...that's it.
I was referring to ProRes codecs in general. Those are not only on Atomos, but widely used, thus my point that ProRes Raw might be more widely adopted at some point.

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The answer is "no".
That may very well be and it certainly appears to be the case, but that question was specifically directed at Dan Keaton, not you.
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Old July 17th, 2019, 07:56 AM   #17
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Re: ProRes RAW support?

Dear Friends,

At this time we are not developing support for Apple ProRes Raw.

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Old July 17th, 2019, 03:22 PM   #18
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Thank you for the confirmation, Dan.
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Old July 17th, 2019, 03:24 PM   #19
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Dear Gary,

You are most welcome.

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Old July 18th, 2019, 04:47 AM   #20
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I don't see ProRes Raw going far. Most camera manufacturers of any note have their own RAW versions so why would they want support a new RAW format which they have to get licensed for with Apple when they have their own. When it comes to existing hardware there are from memory about six different camera models that support ProRes Raw listed on the Atomos site. Not many in other words!

Software? Other than some very high end DI, encoding and finishing apps like:

SSIMILATE - nSCRATCH, FilmLight - Baselight, Daylight, MTI FILM - Cortex and Telestream - Switch and Grass Valley.

So there is no run of the mill NLE listed here unless you call Edius a run of the mill NLE. Edius is great product. I'm still a registered user, but it has one of the smallest user bases of any NLE. Highly doubt Resolve would ever go there what with Blackmagic's own BRAW development. At the moment to the best of my knowledge FCPX is about he only NLE that supports ProRes Raw natively so that totally outs the Windows world of PC editors other than those Edius users. Adobe are also dragging the anchor on this one to date.

Also with more and more cameras coming out with higher bit rates and better color depth codecs means shooters don't have to carry external recording kit as much as they used to in the past. These later camera based developments are not going to advance the take up of ProRes Raw to any great degree I would suggest. So much for all the furore that surrounded its release in April '18. If ProRes Raw hasn't made much traction in the fifteen months since it was released I don't see it surging ahead in a cloud of steam in the coming months, years. I could be wrong! I was once a long time ago, October 1962... but most people have forgotten and forgiven me that error :))

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Old July 18th, 2019, 06:38 AM   #21
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I could be wrong! I was once a long time ago, October 1962... but most people have forgotten and forgiven me that error :))
Yes, despite your error we still landed on the moon, it just delayed it until '69.
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Old July 18th, 2019, 08:05 AM   #22
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Edius is great product.
This is true. And not enough people know it.

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...it has one of the smallest user bases of any NLE.
Which is their own damn fault, but that's a topic for a separate discussion.

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...we still landed on the moon, it just delayed it until '69.
Has it been 50 years already? Seems like it was just yesterday.


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