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Glenn Gipson January 8th, 2005 08:26 AM

The war gets nastier
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...6&sid=95609565

http://www.videobusiness.com/article...4&catType=NEWS

Tell me if that last link works or not.

Heath McKnight January 8th, 2005 09:31 AM

You have to log in/be a member on the second one, but the first one is very telling--gamers are supporting Blu-laser...

heath

Rob Lohman January 9th, 2005 07:05 AM

Some major news!
 
Quote:

Warner, Universal and Paramount together announced some 89 titles that will be available on HD-DVD in time for the format's 4th Qtr launch.
Source: http://videostoremag.com/news/html/b...rticle_ID=7014

Some (massive) titles include:

- The Italian Job
- Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
- Forrest Gump
- Braveheart
- Mission Impossible 2
- Sleepy Hollow
- Star Trek: First Contact
- The Bourne Supremacy
- The Chronicles of Riddick
- Apollo 13
- U-571
- 12 Monkeys
- Dune, The Thing
- Spy Game
- Pitch Black
- Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
- Batman Begins (!)
- Blade
- Dark City
- Harry Potter series
- The Matrix trilogy
- Ocean's Eleven & Twelve
- The Perfect Storm
- Se7en
- The Sopranos
- Troy

etc. etc.

For complete list see: www.thedigitalbits.com

Heath McKnight January 9th, 2005 10:28 AM

Fortunately for me, I don't own too many of those titles, so I'll hold off on buying the Sky Captain DVD then (I have doubles of too many DVDs, because one will have a set of special features, then the second will have a different set that doesn't include the first's s.f.).

heath

David Kennett January 21st, 2005 01:47 PM

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like all this "hype" seems misdirected. It seems like the main "standard" needs to be defining things like menu and chapter construction - things that differentiate a movie DVD from a DVD with a bunch of files on it.

Right now, most new DVD players don't care if it's a pressed DVD, a burned DVD-r, DVD+r, DVD-rw, or DVD+rw. Heck, they'll even play Audio files. (WMA & MP3), as well as plain old MPG files - of just about any variety. Put your JPEG stills on a disk (any variety) and it'l show them.

It seems like a defined file structure for HD-DVD should be able to be burned onto any disk it would fit. Compression continues to improve too! WMV in HD takes up about the same space as SD-DVD.

What am I missing?

Chris Hurd January 21st, 2005 02:32 PM

It would take a release of Citizen Kane on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to get me to upgrade.

Kaleem Maxwell January 29th, 2005 04:11 PM

Heh, I'd still wait for the "price drop" on the boxing day weekend. Muh huh huh...

The big question here is who can really make the new technologies sing? And I mean, really sing? And which smaller companies can take advantages of the technologies?

Okay that was 3 questions.

Heath McKnight January 29th, 2005 11:16 PM

Chris,

When I heard Sky Captain would be released on HD-DVD, I said, "I'm gonna wait, because I'm sick of buying a DVD and then a better version comes out later." Then I realized I'd have to buy an HD-DVD player, and if history is any indication (the first VCR, the first CD player, the first DVD player), the prices will probably be a minimum of $300 to $400...

heath

ps-I'm gonna buy Sky Captain shortly...SD...

Rob Lohman January 30th, 2005 08:39 AM

And the first DVD discs looked AWEFULL. It is very reasonable to
think the first HD-DVD or blu-ray disc will look worse than discs
2 years later (not to say they won't look great, but they need to
get that technology to the best it can do as well).

Heath McKnight January 30th, 2005 09:59 AM

Rob,

I still have one of the first DVDs ever, though I bought it 2.5 years after it came out: Twister, and compared to the newer version (circa 2000), it is not nearly as nice, but still pretty decent. And FYI, in early 1998, Siskel and Ebert compared the quality of a DVD and Laserdisc, and the DVD had better resolution. They talked about how it would probably take over, but they didn't need to get rid of their laserdiscs. Then again, most early DVDs were nothing more than re-packaged LDs.

What about those DVDs that were "disposable," that Circuit City got behind? Much lower quality than regular DVDs! UGH!

heath

Rob Lohman January 31st, 2005 03:54 AM

Wasn't the disposable format called "divx" (no, not *that* codec)?
Or was that something else? It bombed massively, ofcourse.

That's exactly what I was talking about Heath. The resolution is
there for HD-DVD/blu-ray. The question is how good are the encoders
for the various formats on those discs (and which will be used
most since they have windows media on there, but also mpeg4
I believe and some other formats?) and will they take the time
to do it righ or rush it out (probably). We'll see what happens....


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