It's about time!! "Final Cut Studio"! at DVinfo.net

Christopher C. Murphy · April 17th, 2005, 01:50 PM

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/

I love Apple again! Native HDV editing, and lots more.

Also, it's $699 to upgrade AND you get Motion 2 AND DVD Studio Pro 4!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

K. Forman · April 17th, 2005, 01:57 PM

But... It's still Mac only platform. When will they make it right, you know, for a PC? Hehe. The price is mighty nice though.

Boyd Ostroff · April 17th, 2005, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

When will they make it right, you know, for a PC?

Heh, heh... I'll ask Steve to give you a call when it's available. Don't wait up though... ;-)

K. Forman · April 17th, 2005, 03:50 PM

I wish somebody would ask him;) I've been wanting to try FCP for sometime, but never bad enough to switch to the Apple.

Brandon Greenlee · April 17th, 2005, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

I wish somebody would ask him;) I've been wanting to try FCP for sometime, but never bad enough to switch to the Apple.

Same position I'm in.

I really want to try it out, but its not just changing NLE's it also requires me to work on a platform in which I have absolutely no experience.

I doubt since Adobe no longer makes Premiere for Mac there would be no reason for FC to ever come to PC, besides I'm sure it helps sell more macs...

Richard Alvarez · April 17th, 2005, 04:10 PM

Funny, this is obviously in response to AVID XPRESS PRO STUDIO. (Minus the hardware though.) Aivd runs cross platform though.

It's amusing to watch the marketing ping-pong.

Peter Wiley · April 17th, 2005, 05:55 PM

I am annoyed with Apple about the upgrade path. I own Motion, DVD Studio Pro and FCP, but did not buy them in the production suite -- so I am stuck with a $700 upgrade!?

I am also wondering about the AGP Quartz extreme graphics card requirement.

BTW, don't worry about moving to the Mac because of a lack of experience. Very little is needed to begin with, or even after for that matter.

Christopher C. Murphy · April 18th, 2005, 06:19 AM

Hi Peter,

What's this about "AGP Quartz extreme graphics card requirement"?? Can hit us with a link? I think we all need that info!! Thanks!

Peter Wiley · April 18th, 2005, 06:36 AM

Chris, go to the page you provided the link for (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/) scroll down to the bottom and look at the 8th bullet point on the list of "Final Cut Studio System Requirements".

It says: "AGP Quartz Extreme graphics card" -- which is a little vauge.

What I am wondering is whether the stock video in by Dual 2MHz G5 will work or if I am going to have to buy a new card. Is some company going to come out with new cards to fulfill this "requirement."?

The current version of Motion begins to have trouble with playback iif projects get too complex now. So, if I am going to have to pay $700 plus $500 for a new beefy video card I won't be happy.

Duane Smith · April 18th, 2005, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Wiley

What I am wondering is whether the stock video in by Dual 2MHz G5 will work or if I am going to have to buy a new card.

You will not have to buy a new card -- the one you have will work fine. The video cards in all PowerMacs since the G4 667MHz model (essentially, every PowerMac since the DP450 / DP500 era G4s) have been equipped with "AGP Quartz Extreme graphics cards". All G5-based Macs would definately qualify.

Bascally, any video cards from the "NVIDIA GeForce2 MX" and better -OR- any AGP-based "ATI Radeon" and better are Quartz Extreme capable (as long as it's an AGP card; some aftermarket cards are PCI-based and won't qualify).

Here's an Apple info page on Quartz Extreme :
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quartzextreme/

- Duane

Peter Wiley · April 18th, 2005, 11:07 AM

Thanks Duane.

I have always been a little hazy on the whole graphics card thing. The link explains the issue well.

Christopher C. Murphy · April 18th, 2005, 11:18 AM

Ah yes, thank you!

Wayne Orr · April 22nd, 2005, 08:43 PM

Peter wrote: "I am annoyed with Apple about the upgrade path. I own Motion, DVD Studio Pro and FCP, but did not buy them in the production suite -- so I am stuck with a $700 upgrade!?"

Take heart, Peter, all is not lost. This response from the Apple site:
"Can I upgrade to Final Cut Studio for $499 if I purchased all of the individual applications separately?
Yes. If you purchased Final Cut Pro HD, DVD Studio Pro 3 and Motion separately, you qualify for the upgrade."
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/topquestions.html

Feel better now?

Wayne Orr, SOC

Peter Wiley · April 23rd, 2005, 06:07 AM

My faith in humanity is restored.

Thank you, Wayne for sluthing this fact out. [chuckles gleefully]

Scott Anderson · April 23rd, 2005, 08:48 AM

So, you've already invested in FCP, DVD Studio and Motion, right? Of course you have. They're all killer apps - no doubt about it. Now, for the $499 upgrade, you get major enhancements to all of them. Okay, not bad. Not the cheapest upgrade ever offered, but well worth it if you are in need of, say multicam editing, own an HDV cam, or do "Motion" graphics. Or if you author DVDs and want to inch your way into HD-Blu-next-gen-Something.

But, for that same price, you also get Soundtrack Pro, soon to be known as the program that killed ProTools on the Mac. This thing is hot! Any kind of sound design, save easy 5.1 mixing will be easily handled by Soundtrack Pro. Wave edit, multitrack, sound FX library all in one. That's what you're really paying for - and well worth the price, IMO.

April 17th, 2005, 01:50 PM	#1
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	It's about time!! "Final Cut Studio"! http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/ I love Apple again! Native HDV editing, and lots more. Also, it's $699 to upgrade AND you get Motion 2 AND DVD Studio Pro 4! SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET! __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

April 17th, 2005, 01:57 PM	#2
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	But... It's still Mac only platform. When will they make it right, you know, for a PC? Hehe. The price is mighty nice though. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

April 17th, 2005, 03:50 PM	#4
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I wish somebody would ask him;) I've been wanting to try FCP for sometime, but never bad enough to switch to the Apple. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

April 17th, 2005, 05:55 PM	#7
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	I am annoyed with Apple about the upgrade path. I own Motion, DVD Studio Pro and FCP, but did not buy them in the production suite -- so I am stuck with a $700 upgrade!? I am also wondering about the AGP Quartz extreme graphics card requirement. BTW, don't worry about moving to the Mac because of a lack of experience. Very little is needed to begin with, or even after for that matter. Last edited by Peter Wiley; April 18th, 2005 at 06:38 AM. Reason: left out word

April 18th, 2005, 06:19 AM	#8
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Hi Peter, What's this about "AGP Quartz extreme graphics card requirement"?? Can hit us with a link? I think we all need that info!! Thanks! __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

April 17th, 2005, 04:10 PM	#6
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Funny, this is obviously in response to AVID XPRESS PRO STUDIO. (Minus the hardware though.) Aivd runs cross platform though. It's amusing to watch the marketing ping-pong.

April 18th, 2005, 06:36 AM	#9
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	Chris, go to the page you provided the link for (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/) scroll down to the bottom and look at the 8th bullet point on the list of "Final Cut Studio System Requirements". It says: "AGP Quartz Extreme graphics card" -- which is a little vauge. What I am wondering is whether the stock video in by Dual 2MHz G5 will work or if I am going to have to buy a new card. Is some company going to come out with new cards to fulfill this "requirement."? The current version of Motion begins to have trouble with playback iif projects get too complex now. So, if I am going to have to pay $700 plus $500 for a new beefy video card I won't be happy.

April 18th, 2005, 11:07 AM	#11
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	Thanks Duane. I have always been a little hazy on the whole graphics card thing. The link explains the issue well.

April 18th, 2005, 11:18 AM	#12
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Ah yes, thank you! __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

April 22nd, 2005, 08:43 PM	#13
Wayne Orr Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northridge Ca Posts: 734	Peter's dilemma Peter wrote: "I am annoyed with Apple about the upgrade path. I own Motion, DVD Studio Pro and FCP, but did not buy them in the production suite -- so I am stuck with a $700 upgrade!?" Take heart, Peter, all is not lost. This response from the Apple site: "Can I upgrade to Final Cut Studio for $499 if I purchased all of the individual applications separately? Yes. If you purchased Final Cut Pro HD, DVD Studio Pro 3 and Motion separately, you qualify for the upgrade." http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/topquestions.html Feel better now? Wayne Orr, SOC

April 23rd, 2005, 06:07 AM	#14
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	My faith in humanity is restored. Thank you, Wayne for sluthing this fact out. [chuckles gleefully]

April 23rd, 2005, 08:48 AM	#15
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	Don't forget Poland!! So, you've already invested in FCP, DVD Studio and Motion, right? Of course you have. They're all killer apps - no doubt about it. Now, for the $499 upgrade, you get major enhancements to all of them. Okay, not bad. Not the cheapest upgrade ever offered, but well worth it if you are in need of, say multicam editing, own an HDV cam, or do "Motion" graphics. Or if you author DVDs and want to inch your way into HD-Blu-next-gen-Something. But, for that same price, you also get Soundtrack Pro, soon to be known as the program that killed ProTools on the Mac. This thing is hot! Any kind of sound design, save easy 5.1 mixing will be easily handled by Soundtrack Pro. Wave edit, multitrack, sound FX library all in one. That's what you're really paying for - and well worth the price, IMO.