Re: Release Lightworks NLE available
 

More Shark Byte tutorials have been added and the series (together with the original getting started basic videos) can now be accessed on the Lightworks web site.

Shark Bytes

There are now over 500,000 registered at the web site.

Re: Release Lightworks NLE available
 

The latest Lightworks beta 11.1k is available. This has improvements for native MP4/H.264 mov handling. New Lightworks Version 11.1.k Now Available as Public Beta

Their target date for the release 11.1 version is 28th May 2013, which will include the new EditShare Licensing (ELS). This means that Lightworks will no longer be using HASP, the cause of installation problems for a number of users.

Re: Release Lightworks NLE available
 

The new public beta is 11.1L is available for testing. This has the new EditShare Licensing (ELS), which they hope will avoid the issues that HASP was causing for some people.

New Lightworks Version 11.1.l Now Available as Public Beta

To coincide with the upcoming new release and the new licensing Editshare are introducing for the first time "a 30 day Pro Trial license allowing users to experience the full power of Lightworks Pro". However, I'm not sure if this trial is just for the beta testers.

28th May remains the target date for the release 11.1.

Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

The latest Lightworks version 11.1 for Windows is now released.

New Lightworks Release 11.1 Now Available To Download

Key features are native MP4/H.264 mov handling and the new EditShare Licensing Service (ELS). The latter overcoming problems that people had with HASP Licensing.

Lightworks v11.1 - New Features Overview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyRE...ature=youtu.be

There are two versions the Free and the Pro with an annual subscription. Also new is a 30 day free trial of the Pro version that's currently being offered with the Free version. 11.1 now also transcodes some consumer codecs for importing into the Free Versions, while the Pro version can edit them natively. 64 bit is only available in the Pro Version.

For Free version users EyeFrame developed by Lightwork's forum users, converts to Lightworks friendly codecs EyeFrame - easy convert video to and from Lightworks with time code, reel name and proxies

I gather version 11.2 is now on the stocks will feature 4k and is due out later in the year. The current version only handles RED in those larger resolutions. The target for the Mac version is IBC.

An interesting thing that's happening is editors using Lightworks in combination with other NLEs.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

The Lightworks free version is now available as 64 bit in 11.1.

Also new is the licensing for AVID DNxHD, which is now included in the installer in a locked state. It's now also available for purchase to use with the Linux beta.

Important Update About Lightworks

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

A warning to anyone before you part with your money.
Before you buy the Pro version make sure that Lightworks does not crash your system.
It reminded me so much of Liquid (which was bought by Avid and was then scrapped) that got a bit carried away and bought the Pro version without checking that Lightworks was stable on my system.
Now I have spent £48 for Lightworks which crashes Windows XP every time I open it.
I cannot find any way of getting support from Lightworks and my post to the Lightworks forum has had no response after two days.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Yes, it's a good idea to try out the Free version first

I don't know the cause of your problem. The Lightworks forum is usually very helpful, but with the new licensing system there's a bit of learning curve for the members now that it's out in the wild. Unfortunately, the developers etc tend not to be around the forum over the weekend to give support, so you may have to wait until Monday unless the members come up with a solution. However, I've had Lightworks people sorting out a drive problem on my computer and they're keen to find out what problems are out there, so that they can do a fix.

Lightworks does have another support method if you can't get the information or help you need on the forum: Report a problem

This is separate to having a support contract, which I'd assume is much more hands on..

EDIT It seems that someone has a similar problem to yours with a LTO and they suspect it's a Windows issue.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Thanks Brian
I had not found the report a problem link. Thank you. I will try that.
I posted the problem to the forum on Thursday morning. I was hoping to play with it this weekend so it is a bit frustrating not to be able to do that.
I really hope that I can get Lightworks to work because from what I have seen so far it looks like it could become my NLE of choice.
Liquid and Avid run on my system without any problems and the specification seems to meet the minimum requirements for Lightworks.
The windows screen that comes up after each crash implies that it is newly installed hardware of software that is causing the problem and says to speak to the developers.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Quite a few people on the Lightworks forum use Windows XP, so it could be a conflict somewhere in your computer.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I normally use CS6 but I don't like the idea of renting software in the future so I was looking for a possible alternative. I have had a similar problem with frequent crashing on opening with Win 8, fortunately using the free version. When it was working, I found it unintuitive to use. Frankly is it worth the hassle? Should I persevere?

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

NLEs are very personal things, for it to work you have to give up the way you used Premiere. If you try to use them the same way you'll find Lightworks confusing and unintuitive. Lightworks has a very simple logic and once people lock into it they often find that it's the other NLEs that are unintuitive. Lightworks'' strength is as a story telling editor, if that's what you basically do, it's worth persevering.

It's worth checking out the keyboard short cuts, these can be AVID, FCP or Lightworks. I feel that the latter make more sense of the way Lightwork works, but JKL etc are similar. There's a keyboard image of the Lightworks key layout that can be printed out on one of the threads.

If you're experiencing frequent crashing when opening with Windows 8, I'm sure the Lightworks developers would like to hear about it.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

The problem with Lightworks is that its trying to preserve an antiquated method of film clip management as if he computer doesn't exist. The designers are trying to preserve a work flow that has been effectively done away with by modern computer file management. The old timers that worked with rooms of film clip stored on shelves and in individual boxes want to continue to work that way. The reason that modern NLE' s developed the waythey have was to eliminate the ineffiencies of the old way, and Lightworks needs to adapt or disappear. J ust my opinion, based on my attempt to learn a bit about this NLE.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I'm not sure if you're referring to the terminology used e.g racks and bins, which are basically just folders. The interesting thing about Lightworks is that you can use it in a number of different ways, you can break everything down into sub clips or you can just select the clips you want to use on fly. You can do endless edits of the same scene and select the one want.

Apart from mostly using just the mouse, you can use the keyboard or for really fast editing the tactile Lightworks console, however, that's expensive pro gear, so quite a few users have a ShuttlePro v2.

In the future, will Lightworks break everything down for you in the future and automatically log into CUs etc? Who knows. Large productions still use slates, while single person crews use computer files, so there is a range of needs. There has been catch up in aspects of the program, in other areas it was still ahead of the others, although that's a moving target.

As an side, I've noticed that the Lightworks program seems to get smaller with each new version, so the developers seem to be trying to avoid bloated software.

I sense that the thing editors like about Lightworks is that it doesn't try to get in the way of the material. You're aware of the material, rather than the program. However, it's not a drag 'n drop program, although it can do that, but you do need to check the user guide for the full key + mouse combinations to make full use of it and it's not the fastest way to edit.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I just installed it and imported some non critical work, what I noticed immediately how painfully slow the import process was, what is just a few seconds in edius took over a minute in lightworks and it was only about 60 videofiles, could it be that lightworks conforms the audio during import so you have a preview of the waveform right after import?

The nle is very responsive though and it's amazing that they can pack a full nle in just a few mb's, but it's also a massive learning curve if you are coming from another nle, like starting all over again. If I would not have the cash to buy from the major players I sure would try to learn to use it. Think I"ll use it on a next personal project just to get the hang of the most basic functions.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I gather that Eduis carries out importing operations in the background, which I understand Lightworks doesn't (at least currently) do or at least in the same way. This seems to be one of the Eduis strong points and could be a factor in deciding which NLE you select to use.

Did you download the 32 bit or 64 bit Lightworks? You can either link to or transcode on import, which could affect the import speed.

I don't know what importing changes the Lightworks 11.2 version will have, it seems to be an area the developers are working on.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I suspect that Editshare's other post production products may hint how Lightworks might fit in the longer term. Flow Browse - EditShare

My impression of the philosophy is that they want the program to present the material so the editor can make new connections without distractions. How well that works can be open to debate, in the past, the arguments between Avid and Lightworks editors were just as fierce as between mac and PC users. That Editshare is run by former editors (although very much involved in the modern digital workflow), rather than computer people may influence the overall approach.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

A public beta with fixes for some bugs that some people found when installing the original 11.1 release has been put up for testing. It's only intended for those people to test.

New Lightworks Version 11.1.1.a Now Available as Public Beta

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I did a quick check on importing some material, with a create link import it was pretty much instantaneous, while it takes time if you transcode on import. Transcoding is something you're more likely to need on the Free version because of the limited codec options.

For the person on a budget, Lightworks does work well on the lower powered computer. There's a small percentage of users with Windows XP and some of the LInux users were upset that they could only beta test the 64 bit and not the 32 bit version.

I believe you can still buy a turnkey Lightworks setup, although the software is the same you'll have all the hardware.

Correction: Max resolution apart from RED - 8bit, 10bit and 16bit DPX files are fully supported in Lightworks for import and export, at resolutions up to 4K.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

DV Info sponsor Videoguys is now selling a Lightworks keyboard and software bundle. Videoguys.com - Search for "lightworks" The software & keyboard can be bought separately. I guess there may be reduced delivery costs for people in the US compared to buying directly

There are another 4 Shark Byte tutorials, these deal with Drag & Drop,

I gather Editshare is hoping to introduce off line activation for Lightworks in the near future.

BTW If anyone has any suggestions for features on Lightworks, the developers do read their Feature Requests section. The suggestions can cause a bit of debate, but over time quite a few do turn up in the program.

Lightworks NLE for Mac
 

Edithare have announced that the Mac version of Lightworks will be demonstrated during London’s third annual SuperMeet. Third Annual London SuperMeet || Creative Pro User Group Network

Re: Lightworks NLE for Mac
 

Really looking forward to the Mac version of Lightworks, which I haven't cut on since 1995. I currently cut on FCP6. FCP X is just not working for me and the way I edit and I'm concerned that legacy FCP will gradually stop working, as the OS evolves.

So I'm looking at Lightworks or a move back to Avid as my future options at the moment.

Thanks for the heads up about CPUG.

Personally, I'm not too keen on these mass meetings from my experiences so far - they seem to exist more to sell gear than genuinely share knowledge. I'll watch from the sidelines!

Ben.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

There are 3 more Lightworks Shark Byte drag and drop tutorials. These cover using this method in the timeline.

Shark Bytes

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

There's now a public beta version 11.1.1c to test off line activation, plus a few maintenance fixes.

New Lightworks Version 11.1.1.c Now Available as Public Beta

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

A further public beta (11.1.1d) is now available.

New Lightworks Version 11.1.1.d Now Available as Public Beta

The instructions for off line activation can be found in the FAQ section of their web site.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I would have been interested in purchasing the Pro version but I don't subscribe to software. Not going to do it with Adobe. Not going to do it for Lightworks Pro.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

You could regard it as an annual license to use the full range of codecs, since you always have the free version with a limited codec range, which the program reverts to. That's rather like the model you have with anti virus software, which you need to renew every year in order to keep the virus files up to date.

With Lightworks you also have the option of a two year or three year subscription rather than an annual one.

It's a matter of personal choice and some people just don't like the concept of subscriptions, although the Lightworks costs do make financial sense for many people when you look at the numbers.

This subject did come up on the Lightworks forum and impression was that Lightworks was sort of in the middle between Adobe cloud and purchasing the software. You don't need to regularly check in with Lightworks and with the new off line activation the workstation doesn't need an internet connection. I believe the latter was causing problems for some people and organisations.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

There are three more shark byte tutorials. These cover media management, plus Windows installing & activating Lightworks Version 11.1. I assume the latter is an updated version.

On their forum, they are asking what further Shark Byte tutorials the Lightworks users would like.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Lightworks Version 11.1.1e public beta is available for testing.

New Lightworks Version 11.1.1.e Now Available as Public Beta

This includes experimental memory handling in order to resolve the outstanding memory issues reported by users, plus a number of fixes.

Re: Lightworks NLE for Mac
 

Although nothing official, but I imagine that the mac version of Lightwork that Editshare is planning to release around IBC will be a public beta. They like to go through a good beta process before the release version and the Linux version is currently still at the beta stage.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

There is another public beta, 11.1.1f http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option...iew&Itemid=188

This has a few maintenance fixes.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

There is a Lightworks dialogue editing tutorial available, complete with script, material and 6 video tutorials

Lightworks Dialogue Edit Tutorial

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Public beta 11.1.1g is available for testing. This has a further range of fixes and adds a 24bit audio export option to the export panel

New Lightworks Version 11.1.1.g Now Available as Public Beta

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

BTW This might be of interest to non Lightworks users who want too see how you approach cutting dialogue, timings etc.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I am curious as to how Lightworks is rated for ease of use? For someone currently using Sony Vegas Pro how big of a learning curve would it be?

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Also owning Vegas, I suspect that Sony Vegas may cause you to think in a way that isn't necessarily the best method for using Lightworks. The secret seems to be forget whatever way your previous NLE does things because it's just going to hold you back.

A number of the features operate in a similar way to Vegas, however, Lightworks, drag and drop involves using the shift and Ctrl together with the mouse to cover all the possible options. Some people are using Lightworks in combination with Vegas because of the latter's strong audio features, they use it effectively as a digital audio workstation.

Having said that, you can get going relatively quickly. The video tutorials now cover a far number of the procedures and a new User Guide is due out soon. Once you know your way around the program you can use Lightworks the way you want, you're not locked into any one layout or method of working.

The terminology can be a bit different. Perhaps the use of bins and racks is the first thing to get over, that and every tile (viewer or thumbnail) having it's own timeline, this may throw you at first, but it's extremely flexible. Note you can only edit in one timeline at a time.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

I fear that I have been spoiled by Vegas' ease of use. I have Lightworks, and I have Premiere in CS5 (I actually learned editing in Premiere initially In early 2000's), but I can't get myself to use anything but Vegas. I fully intend to try to learn more about light works, but the way is was set up in past work flows I tried was based on storage methods for hard film. Since I was new to motion filming, it made no sense to me in modern NLE terms. I hope they are moving away from that.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

In which way is the Lightworks set up "based on storage methods for hard film"? You can now do a lot of drag and drop editing.

There is some terminology, but other NLEs use bins with perhaps racks being the one unique term to Lightworks.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

The racks mentioned are on screen directories/folders into which you can place 15 bins or racks (closed racks can be placed inside other racks). You can use these to create whatever filing system works for you or a particular project.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

As I recall, in my early days of trying to work with this NLE, the terminology in the trainging was something like rooms, racks, boxes, etc.,, and I understood it to be based on basic hard film editing techniques and management that I as a late comer to editing had no connection to. Perhaps it was just terminology, but that was the feeling I got.

Now admittedly, that was a few years back, and I recognize that things may have changed. My point was I have become accustomed to Vegas, and its drag drop functions that seem to leave things open enough for me to feel free about the editting process. I feel like Vegas allows you to accomplish goals or editing processes by multiple approaches, where as Premiere and Final Cut wanted to restrict you to a process developed by the designer,

I do want to learn and support FirstLight, because I actually believe in what they are doing. I just hope that it has changed that restrictive feeling that I got in my initial trial.

Re: Lightworks NLE version 11.1 for Win. available
 

Lightworks is extremely flexible in how it allows you to work as you like, you can change the layout etc. It's so flexible that it can throw newcomers used to more rigid arrangements. You can use the console (both hardware and the basic on screen version), drag and drop, keyboards or a combination

Some of the terms have been updated, but having a different terminology isn't unique to Lightworks, I gather "event", a term used in Vegas, has a different definition in FCP X.

The Lightworks rooms just allow you to work on different aspects of the same project in different spaces, which aspect is really up to the editor to decide. I suspect it's hard to come up with a computer term that can cover all possible aspects/functions, so perhaps room is just as good a term as any other. It's a space to be used as required. Many users seem to just use one room, but with more complex productions with many episodes for example, they have the option to use them if there's a need. I guess you could call them workspaces, but since Lightworks was originally a British product "room" has that understated approach.

http://lightworks.wikidot.com/lightworks-glossary Update: Stripview is now referred to as timeline. This was written for the Lightworksbeta V10, so some details will have changed.

BTW The bins in Lightworks were originally called galleries (which isn't a film editing term) as in picture gallery. Bin became the common term, so Lightworks changed their terminology, although perhaps gallery is closer to what it looks like on screen. Bin is the film editing term.