New Canon Cinema EOS C200 and 200B

[Gary Huff]

Originally Posted by Dan Brockett

Straight from the horses mouth. Now the questions are, "4:2:2?" and "At what bit rate" although signs are leaning toward 4:2:0 and 150 Mbps.

I am going to guess the same bitrate. There has always been an 8-bit 4:2:2 version of XF-AVC in MXF. There is no reason to have to work on it, the XC10 shipped with that exact codec. What doesn't exist is a non-proxy bitrate version of 8-bit 4:2:0, so that's why it's being worked on.

[Dan Brockett]

Originally Posted by Gary Huff

I am going to guess the same bitrate. There has always been an 8-bit 4:2:2 version of XF-AVC in MXF. There is no reason to have to work on it, the XC10 shipped with that exact codec. What doesn't exist is a non-proxy bitrate version of 8-bit 4:2:0, so that's why it's being worked on.

In a way, that's good to know for potential buyers. Don't count on something that "could" be implemented in the future. If you want this camera, it sounds as if the 4:2:0 8-bit .MP4 or Cinema RAW Light are really about it, unless you are willing to hook up an external recorder. Any 8-bit 4:2:0 XF-AVC would actually be less desirable for me, at least clients can view an .MP4 easily whereas lots of clients have been stumped by how to view XF-AVC. The increased meta-data would be nice but the images and sound will not be any better it sounds like.

[Gary Huff]

With the C300 Mark II being down to $9999, I think that is a steal of a deal. You can still record raw (with an Odyssey or Atomos recorder), so you really just lose the no crop HFR, 4kp60, and the touchscreen, but you gain 10-bit 4:2:2 minimum quality in all modes, and 12-bit 444 internally in 1080/2k.

For what I do, raw is a non-issue and yeah, 4kp60 would have been nice for a project (not even for the 60 but for 48fps), but it wasn't an issue to do in 2k.