Capture HDV in .mov possible? (Moved from PC/Vegas to Mac PPCS3) at DVinfo.net

Hans van Turnhout · August 26th, 2008, 04:39 PM

I have been away from videoediting for about a year. I recently moved from PC and Vegas to Mac and PP CS3 and I have some HDV footage captured through PP CS3. When on PC I could (using HD-link) capture and transform into an cineform intermediate fileformat so that I could edit "frame-by-frame" and not be restricted to GOP editing (not sure if this is the right term but I guess you know what I mean). Is there a similar solution for the Mac platform (I have, to no avail, spent time trying to figure this out)? Any input/guidance is highly appreciated.

Regards

Hans

Chris Barcellos · August 26th, 2008, 04:54 PM

Check with Cineform. My HD Link captures in .avi or .mov format, from HDV. I don't know if you need a separate license or if you can transfer to you mac system, but Cineform is also supposed to work in that platform these days.

Hans van Turnhout · August 26th, 2008, 05:09 PM

I downloaded the Neo HD trial but it does not install on Mac unless you use Bootcamp or Parallels so that did not work.

//Hans

Chris Barcellos · August 26th, 2008, 05:16 PM

Here is Cineform's page on cross platforming.

CineForm QuickTime Mac Codec

You apparently need serial number for MAC to install codec....

Hans van Turnhout · August 27th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Thanks for the link. However, my understanding is that this is just a codec and that it as such does not achieve the effect of transforming the HDV captured video to editable mov-format, i.e. it does not work as HD-link. I will ask in the Cineform forum if the codec is sufficient or if there is something else that need to be done.

//Hans

Michael Wisniewski · August 27th, 2008, 01:02 AM

ClipWrap will re-wrap HDV/.m2t files into a Quicktime wrapper.

BUT!!!!:
A. You need another program to capture the HDV/.m2t files
B. Final Cut Pro must be installed on your system so that ClipWrap has the codecs to convert properly to Quicktime
C. It's a Mac only program.

Hans van Turnhout · August 27th, 2008, 01:30 AM

Can I obtain just the codec (I'm a hobbyist and don't want to invest in an additional videoediting program since I already have PP CS3)? Is there a software based capture program which I can use to capture in m2t files (the HDV captured via PP CS3 could not be read by ClipWrap)? I have an iMAC and a MacBook Pro so there is no room for a hardware capture card.

David W. Jones · August 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM

Use the free mac app DVHSCap.

Good Luck!

Hans van Turnhout · August 27th, 2008, 08:06 AM

Thanks. I'll try that one.

//Hans

Hans van Turnhout · August 27th, 2008, 03:17 PM

Downloaded DVHSCap and MPEG Streamclip. Used streamclip to convert the m2t-file to a mov-file for editing in PP CS3. My concern is that I guess/fear that this process/method is inferior to the ClipWrap solution since Streamclip encodes and ClipWrap just wraps. Anyone knows if and to what extent there is a quality difference between the two methods. I understand that the only way to have ClipWrap work is to have FCP installed. I live in Sweden and the cost for FCP is some USD 2,000 (!) and that is quite a cost for being able to wrap a file. Input as how to best preserve quality (preferably at a cost less than USD 2,000) is highly appreciated.

//Hans

August 26th, 2008, 04:39 PM	#1
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	Capture HDV in .mov possible? (Moved from PC/Vegas to Mac PPCS3) I have been away from videoediting for about a year. I recently moved from PC and Vegas to Mac and PP CS3 and I have some HDV footage captured through PP CS3. When on PC I could (using HD-link) capture and transform into an cineform intermediate fileformat so that I could edit "frame-by-frame" and not be restricted to GOP editing (not sure if this is the right term but I guess you know what I mean). Is there a similar solution for the Mac platform (I have, to no avail, spent time trying to figure this out)? Any input/guidance is highly appreciated. Regards Hans

August 26th, 2008, 04:54 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Check with Cineform. My HD Link captures in .avi or .mov format, from HDV. I don't know if you need a separate license or if you can transfer to you mac system, but Cineform is also supposed to work in that platform these days. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 26th, 2008, 05:16 PM	#4
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Here is Cineform's page on cross platforming. CineForm QuickTime Mac Codec You apparently need serial number for MAC to install codec.... __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 27th, 2008, 01:02 AM	#6
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	ClipWrap will re-wrap HDV/.m2t files into a Quicktime wrapper. BUT!!!!: A. You need another program to capture the HDV/.m2t files B. Final Cut Pro must be installed on your system so that ClipWrap has the codecs to convert properly to Quicktime C. It's a Mac only program. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

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August 26th, 2008, 05:09 PM	#3
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	I downloaded the Neo HD trial but it does not install on Mac unless you use Bootcamp or Parallels so that did not work. //Hans

August 27th, 2008, 12:16 AM	#5
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	Thanks for the link. However, my understanding is that this is just a codec and that it as such does not achieve the effect of transforming the HDV captured video to editable mov-format, i.e. it does not work as HD-link. I will ask in the Cineform forum if the codec is sufficient or if there is something else that need to be done. //Hans

August 27th, 2008, 01:30 AM	#7
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	Can I obtain just the codec (I'm a hobbyist and don't want to invest in an additional videoediting program since I already have PP CS3)? Is there a software based capture program which I can use to capture in m2t files (the HDV captured via PP CS3 could not be read by ClipWrap)? I have an iMAC and a MacBook Pro so there is no room for a hardware capture card.

August 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM	#8
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Use the free mac app DVHSCap. Good Luck!

August 27th, 2008, 08:06 AM	#9
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	Thanks. I'll try that one. //Hans

August 27th, 2008, 03:17 PM	#10
Hans van Turnhout Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 70	Downloaded DVHSCap and MPEG Streamclip. Used streamclip to convert the m2t-file to a mov-file for editing in PP CS3. My concern is that I guess/fear that this process/method is inferior to the ClipWrap solution since Streamclip encodes and ClipWrap just wraps. Anyone knows if and to what extent there is a quality difference between the two methods. I understand that the only way to have ClipWrap work is to have FCP installed. I live in Sweden and the cost for FCP is some USD 2,000 (!) and that is quite a cost for being able to wrap a file. Input as how to best preserve quality (preferably at a cost less than USD 2,000) is highly appreciated. //Hans