NTSC tapes for PAL video ??? at DVinfo.net

Bjørn Sørensen · January 16th, 2004, 03:26 PM

I am working at a video project recorded with my PANA DVX100 PAL camcorder.

But a few seconds in my project will be recorded in USA by another photographer (with NTSC equipment) and sent to me at miniDV tapes.

Is it possible to use this NTSC clips in my PAL project? (FCP4/DVDSP2)

Or what if I they make me a DVD with som mov. files instead of sending tapes?

What is the solution here?

Frank Granovski · January 16th, 2004, 03:39 PM

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s it possible to use this NTSC clips in my PAL project?

No. Can't he just rent a PAL cam?

Andrew Hogan · January 16th, 2004, 06:00 PM

If he can't shoot in PAL you will have to take his NTSC Mini DV Tape to a Video Pro shop and get them to convert it and put it onto a PAL Mini DV tape so you can just capture as normal. I think the main problem is that you are wanting to play back for capture an NTSC tape on you PAL video camera to capture on your Mac. that won't work.
Or do you have a Mini DV Deck that can play both PAL & NTSC?

Glenn Chan · January 16th, 2004, 11:39 PM

Some decks like the DSR-11 can play back both NTSC and PAL DV tapes. That deck doesn't convert between PAL/NTSC. You can use it to capture footage, but then you still need to convert NTSC-->PAL. Conversions tend to be either not very good or very expensive.

Patrick Grealy · January 17th, 2004, 05:57 AM

Create 2 projects in Final Cut Express (or pro)

One for the PAL
One for the NTSC footage

Set up each project preferences for the format (PAL and NTSC) and import the footage into the appropriate file

Export the NTSC project to Quicktime and and use the PAL format option.

Load this newly created quicktime file into the PAL FCX project.

This has worked for me with good results. FCX is a decent PAL<->NTSC converter. You dont even need Quicktime Pro.

Regards P

Graeme Nattress · January 17th, 2004, 07:43 AM

You've got two problems:

1) getting the NTSC footage into your computer

2) doing a NTSC to PAL conversion

To solve 1), you either need a DSR-11 or DSR-25 deck that will play both PAL and NTSC and capture from the tape. Or... Get the NTSC footage dumped onto a CD or DVD in the the USA and load the footage onto your computer that way. You could also pay to have the tape standards converted.

To solve 2), take a look at my website at:http://www.nattress.com/standardsConversion.htm where I sell a Standards Converter for FCP - (don't know if it works in FCE but you can try the demo out and see) and this will provide a much superior standards conversion than you get by just dropping the media into the sequence and letting FCE or FCP do it's worst on it.

What FCP does is drop and duplicate frames - this looks bad and choppy. My plugin does a proper conversion and looks a lot nicer!

Graeme

January 16th, 2004, 03:26 PM	#1
Bjørn Sørensen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 143	NTSC tapes for PAL video ??? I am working at a video project recorded with my PANA DVX100 PAL camcorder. But a few seconds in my project will be recorded in USA by another photographer (with NTSC equipment) and sent to me at miniDV tapes. Is it possible to use this NTSC clips in my PAL project? (FCP4/DVDSP2) Or what if I they make me a DVD with som mov. files instead of sending tapes? What is the solution here? __________________ x

January 17th, 2004, 05:57 AM	#5
Patrick Grealy Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 90	Create 2 projects in Final Cut Express (or pro) One for the PAL One for the NTSC footage Set up each project preferences for the format (PAL and NTSC) and import the footage into the appropriate file Export the NTSC project to Quicktime and and use the PAL format option. Load this newly created quicktime file into the PAL FCX project. This has worked for me with good results. FCX is a decent PAL<->NTSC converter. You dont even need Quicktime Pro. Regards P __________________ Sony PDX10 by 2, DRS-11, Dual G5, FCX, DVDSP and Logic Plat. www.VarsityMusicVideo.com

January 17th, 2004, 07:43 AM	#6
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	You've got two problems: 1) getting the NTSC footage into your computer 2) doing a NTSC to PAL conversion To solve 1), you either need a DSR-11 or DSR-25 deck that will play both PAL and NTSC and capture from the tape. Or... Get the NTSC footage dumped onto a CD or DVD in the the USA and load the footage onto your computer that way. You could also pay to have the tape standards converted. To solve 2), take a look at my website at:http://www.nattress.com/standardsConversion.htm where I sell a Standards Converter for FCP - (don't know if it works in FCE but you can try the demo out and see) and this will provide a much superior standards conversion than you get by just dropping the media into the sequence and letting FCE or FCP do it's worst on it. What FCP does is drop and duplicate frames - this looks bad and choppy. My plugin does a proper conversion and looks a lot nicer! Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

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January 16th, 2004, 06:00 PM	#3
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	If he can't shoot in PAL you will have to take his NTSC Mini DV Tape to a Video Pro shop and get them to convert it and put it onto a PAL Mini DV tape so you can just capture as normal. I think the main problem is that you are wanting to play back for capture an NTSC tape on you PAL video camera to capture on your Mac. that won't work. Or do you have a Mini DV Deck that can play both PAL & NTSC?

January 16th, 2004, 11:39 PM	#4
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Some decks like the DSR-11 can play back both NTSC and PAL DV tapes. That deck doesn't convert between PAL/NTSC. You can use it to capture footage, but then you still need to convert NTSC-->PAL. Conversions tend to be either not very good or very expensive.