XL1S sync issues at DVinfo.net

John Doran · June 21st, 2005, 07:48 AM

What is it with the Canon Xl1s and audio drift, i use final cut express and if i capture more than say 30/40/50 minutes the drift is dreadfull, i know FCE1 has a "sync adjust over movies" but it makes no difference, anyone know or have this problem.
thanks

john

Rob Lohman · June 22nd, 2005, 03:30 AM

This only seems to be a problem with Mac editing software. I've moved your
thread to the Mac editing forum.

Please do a search in the following manner:

1. click search above

2. a popup appears, click on advanced search

3. for keyword enter: sync

4. make sure you select the Mac forum (Non-linear DV Editing on the Mac) in the lower right corner to restrict searching to just the Mac forum

This should yield plenty of results on the sync "problem"

John Doran · June 22nd, 2005, 05:12 AM

it is a canon issue

Rob Lohman · June 22nd, 2005, 05:18 AM

That may very well be, but this problem does not appear with PC editing
software like Premiere or Vegas. Again, if you look here in the Mac forum
you'll find plenty of threads on the camera and iMovie / FCP having problems.
Since your post falls in the same category the thread is better suited here.

p.s. if you read my post above carefully you'll notice I never said it was a
Mac or FCP problem. I also never said it ISN'T a "Canon" problem. I just
stated that this SEEMS to only BE a problem on the Mac platform (in
combination with the XL1S).

John Doran · June 22nd, 2005, 05:55 AM

Thanks again rob

any idea how this can be fixed ?

john.

John Doran · June 22nd, 2005, 06:56 AM

this being a dv site someone must know how to cure this problem.

Dan Euritt · June 22nd, 2005, 10:18 AM

john, there is no audio drift issue with the canon xl1s, period.

you might be confusing the xl1s with the early xl1, which i believe did have an issue with the audio clock frequency being very slightly off... but that was fixed a long time ago.

try looking in your capture app for a "locked audio" setting.

Andrew Khalil · June 23rd, 2005, 10:12 AM

Not a Mac issue -
I have the same problem in Adobe Premiere, but that is with a Canon XL1. Not sure if it's been fixed in the XL1s

John Doran · June 24th, 2005, 02:05 AM

Seems to be with the xl1s because the audio is not locked, and the "sync adjust over movies" does not make any difference.
john

John Doran · June 27th, 2005, 05:50 AM

I am still having this problem, does anyone know what setting (if it is that)or what could it be, or is there a fix for this audio drift.

thanks

john

Dan Euritt · June 28th, 2005, 10:48 AM

>sigh<

i guess that you can't be bothered with looking it up on google? no problem, i'll do the heavy lifting for you ;-)

here is some old info from several years ago:

http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-tech.html#LockedAudio

John Doran · June 29th, 2005, 02:08 AM

hello dan

i have looked every where and NO-ONE seems to know
thanks

john

John Doran · June 29th, 2005, 05:03 AM

if i take footage from the xl1s to the canopus advc (which has locked audio) the to the firwire port of the mac for capture, i should get locked audio..correct?, so therefore i would not have audio/sync drift.

thanks
john

John Doran · June 30th, 2005, 02:29 AM

anyone know ?

Richard Noll · July 2nd, 2005, 11:30 AM

I almost always get sync issues when using tape with the XL1s and FCP4 - 5. I take it that this has to do with time code breaks. Using DLE hard drive with a tape in the camera for backup gives me sync problems on tape but not on the hard drive. The DLE system is suppose to put better or real time code in. Go figure.

June 21st, 2005, 07:48 AM	#1
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	XL1S sync issues What is it with the Canon Xl1s and audio drift, i use final cut express and if i capture more than say 30/40/50 minutes the drift is dreadfull, i know FCE1 has a "sync adjust over movies" but it makes no difference, anyone know or have this problem. thanks john

June 22nd, 2005, 03:30 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	This only seems to be a problem with Mac editing software. I've moved your thread to the Mac editing forum. Please do a search in the following manner: 1. click search above 2. a popup appears, click on advanced search 3. for keyword enter: sync 4. make sure you select the Mac forum (Non-linear DV Editing on the Mac) in the lower right corner to restrict searching to just the Mac forum This should yield plenty of results on the sync "problem" __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 22nd, 2005, 05:12 AM	#3
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync it is a canon issue

June 22nd, 2005, 05:18 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That may very well be, but this problem does not appear with PC editing software like Premiere or Vegas. Again, if you look here in the Mac forum you'll find plenty of threads on the camera and iMovie / FCP having problems. Since your post falls in the same category the thread is better suited here. p.s. if you read my post above carefully you'll notice I never said it was a Mac or FCP problem. I also never said it ISN'T a "Canon" problem. I just stated that this SEEMS to only BE a problem on the Mac platform (in combination with the XL1S). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 22nd, 2005, 05:55 AM	#5
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync Thanks again rob any idea how this can be fixed ? john.

June 22nd, 2005, 06:56 AM	#6
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync issues this being a dv site someone must know how to cure this problem.

June 22nd, 2005, 10:18 AM	#7
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	john, there is no audio drift issue with the canon xl1s, period. you might be confusing the xl1s with the early xl1, which i believe did have an issue with the audio clock frequency being very slightly off... but that was fixed a long time ago. try looking in your capture app for a "locked audio" setting.

June 23rd, 2005, 10:12 AM	#8
Andrew Khalil Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 424	Not a Mac issue - I have the same problem in Adobe Premiere, but that is with a Canon XL1. Not sure if it's been fixed in the XL1s

June 24th, 2005, 02:05 AM	#9
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync issues Seems to be with the xl1s because the audio is not locked, and the "sync adjust over movies" does not make any difference. john

June 27th, 2005, 05:50 AM	#10
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync issues I am still having this problem, does anyone know what setting (if it is that)or what could it be, or is there a fix for this audio drift. thanks john

June 28th, 2005, 10:48 AM	#11
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	>sigh< i guess that you can't be bothered with looking it up on google? no problem, i'll do the heavy lifting for you ;-) here is some old info from several years ago: http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-tech.html#LockedAudio

June 29th, 2005, 02:08 AM	#12
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync issues hello dan i have looked every where and NO-ONE seems to know thanks john

June 29th, 2005, 05:03 AM	#13
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync issues if i take footage from the xl1s to the canopus advc (which has locked audio) the to the firwire port of the mac for capture, i should get locked audio..correct?, so therefore i would not have audio/sync drift. thanks john Last edited by John Doran; June 29th, 2005 at 05:03 AM. Reason: model number

June 30th, 2005, 02:29 AM	#14
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	sync anyone know ?

July 2nd, 2005, 11:30 AM	#15
Richard Noll New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 17	Tape sync versus HD sync I almost always get sync issues when using tape with the XL1s and FCP4 - 5. I take it that this has to do with time code breaks. Using DLE hard drive with a tape in the camera for backup gives me sync problems on tape but not on the hard drive. The DLE system is suppose to put better or real time code in. Go figure.