V1U 24pscnA DV and Final Cut Pro 7 at DVinfo.net

Edward Mendoza · April 25th, 2011, 03:29 PM

Hi guys...

I shot a ton of footage on a Sony HVR-V1U in DVCAM mode, 24pscnA. It was all ingested into Final Cut Pro 7 through the 2:3 3:2 Advanced Pulldown Removal capture settings because the final product needed to be 23.98fps. The footage was mixed with some Panasonic DVX100 24pA footage, which also went through the same ingest process. When editing on a 23.98 sequence, I noticed the V1's footage looked choppy while the Panasonic's looked smooth. Upon further investigation, I found that the Panasonic's footage was 23.98 (the pulldown was successfully removed on ingest) while the Sony's footage was still 29.97.

I did some digging online and found a lot of posts dating back from 2007 stating that Final Cut Pro (at that time) could not remove the pulldown from a V1U without the assistance of the Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC). A lot of this literature was also in reference to HDV footage in particular, not DV, which apparently the 24p format is the same as 24pscnA in this mode. More recent literature talks about Apple's ProRes422, which apparently's a better option than the dated AIC.

But I'm still not understanding. Can the latest Final Cut Pro 7 still not remove the V1U's pulldown simply through firewire through the 2:3 3:2 pulldown removal capture settings, just as it did with the DVX's footage? Do I have to use the ProRes codec, even for this DVCAM footage? Is there a simple, or rather, efficient way of removing the pulldown from all the footage that's already been ingested?

I appreciate any help and replies. Thanks, guys....

Edward Mendoza · April 28th, 2011, 11:36 AM

Okay guys, here's an update to my thread, maybe it makes more sense.

I shot 24scnA footage on a Sony V1U, while my co-shooter shot 24pA footage on a Pani DVX. We're working on Final Cut Pro (ver. 7 and ver. 5 respectively) and our final output will be 23.98fps. We're removing pulldown on ingest and working on a 23.98 timeline.

When my co-shooter ingested both mine and her footage through her DVX, she had no problems removing pulldown. Footage was 23.98. When I ingested both hers and my footage through my V1U, the pulldown was successfully removed from her footage, but mine was still 29.97.

Can someone explain why this is happening?

April 25th, 2011, 03:29 PM	#1
Edward Mendoza Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 157	V1U 24pscnA DV and Final Cut Pro 7 Hi guys... I shot a ton of footage on a Sony HVR-V1U in DVCAM mode, 24pscnA. It was all ingested into Final Cut Pro 7 through the 2:3 3:2 Advanced Pulldown Removal capture settings because the final product needed to be 23.98fps. The footage was mixed with some Panasonic DVX100 24pA footage, which also went through the same ingest process. When editing on a 23.98 sequence, I noticed the V1's footage looked choppy while the Panasonic's looked smooth. Upon further investigation, I found that the Panasonic's footage was 23.98 (the pulldown was successfully removed on ingest) while the Sony's footage was still 29.97. I did some digging online and found a lot of posts dating back from 2007 stating that Final Cut Pro (at that time) could not remove the pulldown from a V1U without the assistance of the Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC). A lot of this literature was also in reference to HDV footage in particular, not DV, which apparently the 24p format is the same as 24pscnA in this mode. More recent literature talks about Apple's ProRes422, which apparently's a better option than the dated AIC. But I'm still not understanding. Can the latest Final Cut Pro 7 still not remove the V1U's pulldown simply through firewire through the 2:3 3:2 pulldown removal capture settings, just as it did with the DVX's footage? Do I have to use the ProRes codec, even for this DVCAM footage? Is there a simple, or rather, efficient way of removing the pulldown from all the footage that's already been ingested? I appreciate any help and replies. Thanks, guys....

April 28th, 2011, 11:36 AM	#2
Edward Mendoza Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 157	Re: V1U 24pscnA DV and Final Cut Pro 7 Okay guys, here's an update to my thread, maybe it makes more sense. I shot 24scnA footage on a Sony V1U, while my co-shooter shot 24pA footage on a Pani DVX. We're working on Final Cut Pro (ver. 7 and ver. 5 respectively) and our final output will be 23.98fps. We're removing pulldown on ingest and working on a 23.98 timeline. When my co-shooter ingested both mine and her footage through her DVX, she had no problems removing pulldown. Footage was 23.98. When I ingested both hers and my footage through my V1U, the pulldown was successfully removed from her footage, but mine was still 29.97. Can someone explain why this is happening?