Firestore FS-C various topics

Jay Rodriguez · January 2nd, 2007, 02:02 PM

Hi Matt,
I spoke with Joe, a tech at Focus Enhanc., even this morning and he told me there's no difference between the two products. I mentioned your name and he knew you, said you're the guy who trained them. lol This is pretty lame as it appears that you're the only one who knows anything about this product, even the tech support is confused.

I'm not home but will be in a few hrs, I'll boot it up and let you know what it says.

Also, I just hung up with someone from Video Guys and he was kind enough offering to take it back. The problem is, even he said they were the same products and that the FS-4 HD Pro supports QT 1080i/24F.

So, Matt do you know where I can get the FS-C from? Video Guys do not carry it.

Jay

Jay Rodriguez · January 3rd, 2007, 10:57 AM

I'm returning my FS-4 to the video guys but they don't carry the FS-C.

Who sells the FS-C for a great price these days?

Thanks,
Jay

Juan Diaz · January 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM

I bought my FS-C from B&H. They have the 100GB model for $1799 and the 60GB model for $1249.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

I they have them both in stock. I ordered mine and had it within a week. So far I've been really happy with it!

Ryan Flesher · January 25th, 2007, 07:53 PM

This has probably been addressed but I couldn't find it.

Can someone give me the workflow if I capture from my Canon XH-A1 on my firestore FS-C in 1080/24f mt2 and then getting it into Final Cut Pro 5.1.2

How long does it take to convert and what kind of compression or image quality change/loss do you get?
What is the best program? Can you take 20 files and convert them together (batch convert)?

I don't want to do the conversion, but since we are going to be waiting a while on the 2.1 firestore 24f upgrade. I have to decide between doing this or just buy a Hv-10 and use it as a capture deck for 24f.

Thanks,
Ryan

Larry Kamerman · January 29th, 2007, 11:32 AM

Ryan, check out this thread at dvxuser. Juan Diaz takes you through his workaround step-by-step:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=83040

Ryan Flesher · February 24th, 2007, 10:16 PM

Any update on the FS-C firestore 2.1 release. Anyone beta testing it? Still looking for 24f support recorded as quicktime.
Also any idea about using it with the new HV20. Will the update let you record 24p?

Thanks
Ryan

Tom Houston · March 6th, 2007, 03:18 PM

I've been waiting over 2 weeks for B&H to get these in stock and no luck. Anyone have any idea what the holdup is on the FS-C 60GB unit? Is it software issues?

Tom

Chris Hurd · March 6th, 2007, 06:08 PM

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James Jackson · March 23rd, 2007, 08:28 AM

Does anybody have it yet and if so, where the hell did you buy it?

Tom Houston · March 24th, 2007, 07:57 PM

Can someone from with either Focus or Canon answer this question? I've been waiting WEEKS for a 60GB model to ship and no one from either Focus or Canon can tell me anything about when it's going to happen. Focus says it's Canons fault but now looking at B&H it looks like they are completely sold out of all of their current line of Focus products. Is Focus going out of business? What is going on here???

I'm real close to canceling my order and moving to another platform. I feel like I’m getting ripped off anyway (Battery Life, 8 min files) and the shipping delay is just adding insult to injury.

Juliana Mori · March 26th, 2007, 10:10 AM

[I feel like I’m getting ripped off anyway (Battery Life, 8 min files) and the shipping delay is just adding insult to injury.]

Tom, what do you mean with "battery life and 8 min files"? Are the FS batteries short life? How short?

And about the files, do they have at max 8 minutes? Dou you know how they are organized into the FS (folder/clip/... by numbers)?

Thanks. Juliana.

Tom Houston · March 30th, 2007, 10:24 AM

Just cancelled my order with B&H. Waited over 30 days and no word/response from either Canon or Focus. I'll be looking for another option other than Focus.

Scott Hayes · April 2nd, 2007, 08:13 AM

Just got a message from B&H regarding this, since we have one on
back order. Said Mid May would be shipping. Great.

Larry Kamerman · April 3rd, 2007, 05:04 PM

Release notes:

version 2.1.0.04032307 (for 60HZ systems only):
- Fixed QUICKTIME 1080/24F, 1080/30F, 1080/25F, and 720/25P
- Fixes to handle distruptions in recorded MPEG stream
NOTE: A new track will be created at the point of discontinuity.
- Upon System Reset, the default HD FORMAT is QUICKTIME
- Stores HD/DV FORMAT when switching between HD RECORDER and DV RECORDER mode
- Corrected several Disk Full errors
- Removed FC DV/HD from FUNCTION menu

Here is a link for the update:
http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...te_wManual.zip

Haven't tried it yet, but wanted to pass it along.

See Barlow Elton's review of it here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=90587

John Richard · April 4th, 2007, 08:34 AM

Does anyone know if this update or another will correct the FS4-HDPro that was sold as a package deal with the XLH1 during the time of last year's NAB?

January 2nd, 2007, 02:02 PM	#46
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	Hi Matt, I spoke with Joe, a tech at Focus Enhanc., even this morning and he told me there's no difference between the two products. I mentioned your name and he knew you, said you're the guy who trained them. lol This is pretty lame as it appears that you're the only one who knows anything about this product, even the tech support is confused. I'm not home but will be in a few hrs, I'll boot it up and let you know what it says. Also, I just hung up with someone from Video Guys and he was kind enough offering to take it back. The problem is, even he said they were the same products and that the FS-4 HD Pro supports QT 1080i/24F. So, Matt do you know where I can get the FS-C from? Video Guys do not carry it. Jay __________________ . www.itchyhousefilms.com

January 3rd, 2007, 10:57 AM	#47
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	Where to buy FS-C? I'm returning my FS-4 to the video guys but they don't carry the FS-C. Who sells the FS-C for a great price these days? Thanks, Jay __________________ . www.itchyhousefilms.com

January 25th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#49
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	FS-C FCP Workflow This has probably been addressed but I couldn't find it. Can someone give me the workflow if I capture from my Canon XH-A1 on my firestore FS-C in 1080/24f mt2 and then getting it into Final Cut Pro 5.1.2 How long does it take to convert and what kind of compression or image quality change/loss do you get? What is the best program? Can you take 20 files and convert them together (batch convert)? I don't want to do the conversion, but since we are going to be waiting a while on the 2.1 firestore 24f upgrade. I have to decide between doing this or just buy a Hv-10 and use it as a capture deck for 24f. Thanks, Ryan

January 29th, 2007, 11:32 AM	#50
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	Ryan, check out this thread at dvxuser. Juan Diaz takes you through his workaround step-by-step: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=83040 __________________ www.gencofilms.com

February 24th, 2007, 10:16 PM	#51
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Fs-c 2.1? Any update on the FS-C firestore 2.1 release. Anyone beta testing it? Still looking for 24f support recorded as quicktime. Also any idea about using it with the new HV20. Will the update let you record 24p? Thanks Ryan

January 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM	#48
Juan Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 49	I bought my FS-C from B&H. They have the 100GB model for $1799 and the 60GB model for $1249. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search I they have them both in stock. I ordered mine and had it within a week. So far I've been really happy with it!

March 6th, 2007, 03:18 PM	#52
Tom Houston New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 24	Still Waiting.... I've been waiting over 2 weeks for B&H to get these in stock and no luck. Anyone have any idea what the holdup is on the FS-C 60GB unit? Is it software issues? Tom

March 6th, 2007, 06:08 PM	#53
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	On this site we refer all where-to-buy questions to our site sponsors: http://www.dvinfo.net/sponsors __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 23rd, 2007, 08:28 AM	#54
James Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leesburg Florida Posts: 65	The FS-C HD60..... Does anybody have it yet and if so, where the hell did you buy it? Last edited by James Jackson; March 23rd, 2007 at 08:26 PM.

March 24th, 2007, 07:57 PM	#55
Tom Houston New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 24	When Is The Fs-c 60gb Model Going To Ship? Can someone from with either Focus or Canon answer this question? I've been waiting WEEKS for a 60GB model to ship and no one from either Focus or Canon can tell me anything about when it's going to happen. Focus says it's Canons fault but now looking at B&H it looks like they are completely sold out of all of their current line of Focus products. Is Focus going out of business? What is going on here??? I'm real close to canceling my order and moving to another platform. I feel like I’m getting ripped off anyway (Battery Life, 8 min files) and the shipping delay is just adding insult to injury.

March 26th, 2007, 10:10 AM	#56
Juliana Mori New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SP Brazil Posts: 16	[I feel like I’m getting ripped off anyway (Battery Life, 8 min files) and the shipping delay is just adding insult to injury.] Tom, what do you mean with "battery life and 8 min files"? Are the FS batteries short life? How short? And about the files, do they have at max 8 minutes? Dou you know how they are organized into the FS (folder/clip/... by numbers)? Thanks. Juliana.

March 30th, 2007, 10:24 AM	#57
Tom Houston New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 24	Done waiting! Just cancelled my order with B&H. Waited over 30 days and no word/response from either Canon or Focus. I'll be looking for another option other than Focus.

April 2nd, 2007, 08:13 AM	#58
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	Mid May Just got a message from B&H regarding this, since we have one on back order. Said Mid May would be shipping. Great.

April 3rd, 2007, 05:04 PM	#59
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	FS-C Firmware Update Release notes: version 2.1.0.04032307 (for 60HZ systems only): - Fixed QUICKTIME 1080/24F, 1080/30F, 1080/25F, and 720/25P - Fixes to handle distruptions in recorded MPEG stream NOTE: A new track will be created at the point of discontinuity. - Upon System Reset, the default HD FORMAT is QUICKTIME - Stores HD/DV FORMAT when switching between HD RECORDER and DV RECORDER mode - Corrected several Disk Full errors - Removed FC DV/HD from FUNCTION menu Here is a link for the update: http://www.focusinfo.com/dynassets/d...te_wManual.zip Haven't tried it yet, but wanted to pass it along. See Barlow Elton's review of it here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=90587 __________________ www.gencofilms.com Last edited by Larry Kamerman; April 3rd, 2007 at 06:04 PM.

April 4th, 2007, 08:34 AM	#60
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Does anyone know if this update or another will correct the FS4-HDPro that was sold as a package deal with the XLH1 during the time of last year's NAB?