Anyone using Boris Red 4 with Edius 4? at DVinfo.net

Hank Bridgeman · March 12th, 2007, 05:22 PM

The plugin works fine with SD video but in HD it looks like the fields get reversed during a 2D or 3D transition. Works fine if I use the stand alone Red engine. Just weird when using the plugin with Edius.

Anyone?

Petur Steingrimsson · April 4th, 2007, 03:33 PM

Hi

I have Edius 4.1 and Red 4.1 as a host. They works fine in SD but HDV is different. Crawling text jitter and some transitions also. It is like the codec's does not match in HDV settings. I am working on PAL 1080i 25fps. 2x3.4 g workstation 2 G Ram.

Petur Stein

John Richard · April 5th, 2007, 08:30 AM

Could it be a field order problem...

HDV is upper field first - maybe the project is set for lower field first which would not match the HDV source material?

Petur Steingrimsson · April 5th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Hi
Yes HDV is upper field first and if Red is used standalone it is ok if imported to Edius.
But inside Edius it jitter in clawl text though the upper field is on.
More or less all positon X Y movements jitter.
SD is ok

Any suggestions?

petur stein

Hank Bridgeman · April 5th, 2007, 05:11 PM

I tryed to get in touch with Boris about this problem and never got a reply. Its strange because in Red you can set to upper or lower field order but it does not make any differance with HDV or Canopus HQ, still jiddery like the fields are reversed, in SD no problem. Using the stand alone Red engine no problem with HDV or HQ . just when using the plugin with edius 4.1

Hank

Petur Steingrimsson · April 5th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Ok
So you have noticed the problem. I contacted Boris several weeks ago and described the problem but i did' t get any real answer.
So if you have the same problem it seems to me that RED 4 has not been tested sufficienty for Canopus HDV codec's.
The best is to contact Boris again and if they get inquiries from several sources they might start working on updates.

petur stein

March 12th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#1
Hank Bridgeman New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dawson Creek, BC Canada Posts: 15	Anyone using Boris Red 4 with Edius 4? The plugin works fine with SD video but in HD it looks like the fields get reversed during a 2D or 3D transition. Works fine if I use the stand alone Red engine. Just weird when using the plugin with Edius. Anyone?

April 4th, 2007, 03:33 PM	#2
Petur Steingrimsson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gardabae Iceland Posts: 3	Edius 4.1 and Boris RED 4.1 Hi I have Edius 4.1 and Red 4.1 as a host. They works fine in SD but HDV is different. Crawling text jitter and some transitions also. It is like the codec's does not match in HDV settings. I am working on PAL 1080i 25fps. 2x3.4 g workstation 2 G Ram. Petur Stein

April 5th, 2007, 04:20 PM	#4
Petur Steingrimsson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gardabae Iceland Posts: 3	Edius 4.1 and Boris Red 4.1 Hi Yes HDV is upper field first and if Red is used standalone it is ok if imported to Edius. But inside Edius it jitter in clawl text though the upper field is on. More or less all positon X Y movements jitter. SD is ok Any suggestions? petur stein

April 5th, 2007, 05:11 PM	#5
Hank Bridgeman New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dawson Creek, BC Canada Posts: 15	Edius 4.1 and Boris Red 4.1 I tryed to get in touch with Boris about this problem and never got a reply. Its strange because in Red you can set to upper or lower field order but it does not make any differance with HDV or Canopus HQ, still jiddery like the fields are reversed, in SD no problem. Using the stand alone Red engine no problem with HDV or HQ . just when using the plugin with edius 4.1 Hank

April 5th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#6
Petur Steingrimsson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gardabae Iceland Posts: 3	Edius 4.1 and Boris Red 4.1 Ok So you have noticed the problem. I contacted Boris several weeks ago and described the problem but i did' t get any real answer. So if you have the same problem it seems to me that RED 4 has not been tested sufficienty for Canopus HDV codec's. The best is to contact Boris again and if they get inquiries from several sources they might start working on updates. petur stein

April 5th, 2007, 08:30 AM	#3
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Could it be a field order problem... HDV is upper field first - maybe the project is set for lower field first which would not match the HDV source material?