Would that be because it's a CCD? Or does this particular chip have that repute?

Have they mentioned whether they are using a OLPF on it? I assume they are of some kind but yes aliasing is a concern.

As you're getting the RAW bayer data off it then problematic scenes could always be debayered in different ways.

All CCDs have vertical smear to some degree because they are read out vertically and the charge can leak, the generation before this sensor had it quite badly. I would hope they had made some advances here.

cheers
paul

What's OLPF?

Paul, do you mean "debayered [before the information leaves the chip]"—or "debayered [in post]"?

It's my understanding that everything has an OLPF, and not all filters are created equal... also not all processing is equal... so I'm not sure how a determination of aliasing, moire, noise etc. can be made without actually having seen the image...?

You can get industrial machine vision cameras with and without filters (this is where most of these sensors are easily available to play with). The sensors work either way. And as you say you can have many types of filters - ones that combine IR suppression as well as OLPF (optical low pass filter).

We'll only be able to see when we can play with the cameras but i would assume that they've selected something appropriate.

cheers
paul

Optical Low Pass Filter, basically ensures that high frequency noise (moire patterning for example) is blurred to reduce aliasing artifacts.

I mean debayered in post. It is my understanding that you are recorded bayered data with this camera.

cheers
paul

Got it. Thanks. Learning. (Ow.)

Interview with Ikonoskop
 

I recently spoke at length with Daniel at Ikonoskop about the A-cam dII. He was very kind with his time, and answered a lot of questions. It's been posted as a 30-minute audio podcast here: Interview with Ikonoskop on the A-Cam dII “Digital 16mm” Camera at FreshDV
Many of my inquiries were simple clarifications of posted specs, hopefully it clears up any remaining confusion about the camera.

Good job, Matt. You hit all the basics. Thanks for confirming, among other things, that the A-Cam's CCD has a low-pass filter. I'd like to have asked Jonsater about vertical smear on the sensor, but it sounds like they're releasing specifics as their marketing plan unfolds and not before.

I thought your characterization of the Ikonoskop RAW data file as almost needing "development" (like film) was appropos. Also good to hear the audio data is separate from the video.

Those cartridges won't be cheap, though. This will be $11-13k when it's ready for a shoot. And that kind of cost makes me wonder about two things:

1. Ikonskop's file-management software
2. Their unseen company "owners," as Jonsater put it

Great interview.

Footage in November
 

Ikonoskope says footage will be posted on their site in November.

Who´s ordered one early? Looking forward to some real world impressions.

Good times to be a shooter...

All the best,

M

Some footage is online on the ikonoskop website.
The clips have been shown at IBC,so nothing really new here.

Peter

That's what they call footage? 3 seconds of some guy in a lab and 3 seconds of someone driving down a road at night? I think they need a new marketing department.

If you take the watch footage, which is quicktime animation coded (12 bit that is) and start playing with it colorwise, you'll see why it's online.

Peter

Can you elaborate?

It has to be separated, there is no "video", only a sequence of pictures/images(frames) organized by folders...

It will come with a 80GB memory card and a 9mm lens, so it will be ready for shooting out of the box, for about $10k.



There won't be one, they already said that, they wil just provide the raw files and count on software developers like Adobe to deal with them the best way possible.


But i find it kinda difficult to spend 10k based on these 3 videos (all of them displaying some issues -> aliasing in the clock, for instance.) and hoping for a delivery 2 months from now.

I really like the Ikonoskop camera.

The big problem that I've got right now is that they haven't announced how much the cartridges are going to cost. Being proprietary and stuffed full of expensive Flash memory means that they're going to be expensive. I'd not order one up until I know how much they're going to be.

There's a new blog post on the ikonoskop blog -- A-cam dII - Prototype 1 | News/blog | Ikonoskop

the've got a prototype? Weren't these fellows supposed to be shipping by now?

This SSD HD is pretty close to what they are trying to achieve:

Newegg.com - OCZ Summit OCZSSD2-1SUM250G 2.5" 250GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Solid State Disks

Just read their user forum - Looks like the guys haven't update anyone in three months.
I'd be really nervous if I put money down on this camera.
-C

The first prototype is shipping
 

According to Ikonoskop they shipped their first camera to the no1 pre order holder somewhere in Down Under.

A-cam dII Prototype 2.1 delivered to Nick Paton (ACS) | News/blog | Ikonoskop

footage from Ikonoskop's first prototype
 

Shot in Australia from Nick Paton with the first Ikonoskop camera.

I found the imagery very beautiful apart from the very pronounced smearing in the burned highlights.



and the same footage a bit more color corrected: