4:3 vs 16:9 LCD monitors at DVinfo.net

Dylan Couper · January 5th, 2007, 06:56 PM

It's time for me to switch to LCD monitors and ditch these CRT monsters hogging my desk.

My question, what is better for editing, the now popular widescreen monitors, or the standard 4:3 ones? I'm running three monitors wide, so I'm thinking the extra width is useless for me, but with more vertical resolution on the 4:3 I'd get more visible tracks on bigger projects where I need it.

Am I on the right track, or is there a reason I should definitely want a widescreen LCD monitor?

Thanks!

Graham Hickling · January 5th, 2007, 09:24 PM

If you keep all 3 monitors then ... sure.

But personally, I replaced 3 monitors with one large widescreen plus a widescreen LCD-TV fed by component cables.

Paul Vlachos · January 6th, 2007, 09:20 AM

Are you using the LCD TV for color correction??

Graham Hickling · January 6th, 2007, 01:25 PM

Actually that was my main reason for using an LCD TV, because I was confident it would use HD colorspace properly.

Maybe I havent looked in the right places, but I've never been sure how computer monitors apply colorspace maticies. Probably they do it just fine, but I've never really understood how its handled.

Paul Vlachos · January 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM

Interesting. I had been thinking of getting an HD monitor. In fact, I posted this yesterday in another section. I'm curious as to what your opinion is. I'll paste it below. Now I'm wondering if I could save a ton of money by getting an LCD TV.

Still, it would be missing a lot of broadcast features.

Anyway, my post was as follows:

This may sound stupid, but I want to make sure before I go and buy one.

My normal setup consists of my Mac Tower running Final Cut -> Firewire -> what used to be a DSR-11, now the HVR-M15U -> S-Video cable to a Sony CRT Broadcast monitor. This enabled me to monitor my work, do color correction, etc. Never a problem with this, except for the documented FCP corrupt preferences glitch occasionally, which would cause it to lose the video, but is easily fixable.

So I was thinking of replacing the trusty Sony monitor with the Panny BT-LH1700W because I want 16:9 and HD. I don't love LCD's, but I cannot afford a broadcast CRT. That's NOT my question here, though, and I"ll reasearch that more on my own from the numerous threads here.

I want to make sure that, if I maintain this setup and connect through the component out of the Sony deck to the Panasonic monitor, it will still work. I don't see why it would not in HDV, but I am asking you who are more experienced for your advice.

Graham Hickling · January 6th, 2007, 02:45 PM

Paul, I'm on a PC, so won't be of much help.

As the previous post says, you can't pass HDV realtime via firewire for monitoring (at least without without some sort of extra hardware decoding step).

I send HD-component out from my videocard direct to my LCD TV. With Windows' multidisplay support, I can then see the timeline and monitor windows on the computer monitor, plus a fullscreen video image on the LCD.

Steven Gotz · January 6th, 2007, 04:14 PM

With my Matrox Parhelia APVe I get two PC monitors plus on HDTV. I like it. I just wish they would come out with a version that worked better with After Effects 3D stuff.

Brent Graham · January 7th, 2007, 01:29 PM

I currently use two wide screen LCDs for my setup. I think they give me the area of 3 crts. I would definitely look into the native resolution of what your buying.

Dylan: May I suggest...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116065

Looking now, this is what I bought. Got 3, two for this comp and 1 for my audio machine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254005

It's a GREAT screen!

Dylan Couper · January 7th, 2007, 01:30 PM

I'm going to start chucking beer cans at everyone who derailed my thread!
Full ones!
But of PBR so you don't want to drink it!
:)

If we can get back to my original topic for just a second (and so I don't have to delete all your posts)...

GIVEN A MULTIPLE MONITOR SETUP, DO YOU PREFER WIDESCREEN OR STANDARD LCD COMPUTER MONITORS FOR EDITING???

Brent Graham · January 7th, 2007, 01:34 PM

I would definitely go wide screen.

I use one monitor for my premiere tools/effects/timeline, the other screen just has my preview window/source window tabs. So I get as much space as possible for my 16:9 video on one screen, while comfortably fitting everything else on the other.

Go widescreen, look into that Hanns-G, I bought 3 and would recommend it.

Paul Vlachos · January 7th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Wide screen, it's a no-brainer. It's 2007. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, etc.

Steven Gotz · January 7th, 2007, 03:10 PM

If I had it to do over again, I would probably go widescreen. But I would get the kind that can rotate so I could work on some of my stills in the "proper" orientation.

Dave Campbell · January 7th, 2007, 03:29 PM

I am going with two HPLP3065 wide screens driven from a Nvidia FX4500 dual link card. Boy is it great. :o)

I have do dump my matrox apve cards since they dont do dual link. :o(

Dave

Jim Harmon · January 8th, 2007, 07:54 AM

What resolution widescreen monitor would one want in order to edit HD captures? The widescreen monitors on newegg are either 1920 x 1200, 1680 x 1050, or 1440 x 900 (i.e., all of them are 1.6:1, not 1.78 which is 16:9).

Steven Gotz · January 8th, 2007, 11:12 AM

If you get a 1920X1200 the HDV will not fill up the entire monitor, but so what? You get all of the pixels. That is all that counts.

January 5th, 2007, 06:56 PM	#1
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	4:3 vs 16:9 LCD monitors It's time for me to switch to LCD monitors and ditch these CRT monsters hogging my desk. My question, what is better for editing, the now popular widescreen monitors, or the standard 4:3 ones? I'm running three monitors wide, so I'm thinking the extra width is useless for me, but with more vertical resolution on the 4:3 I'd get more visible tracks on bigger projects where I need it. Am I on the right track, or is there a reason I should definitely want a widescreen LCD monitor? Thanks! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

January 6th, 2007, 09:20 AM	#3
Paul Vlachos Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 88	Are you using the LCD TV for color correction?? __________________ One day at a time.

January 6th, 2007, 01:56 PM	#5
Paul Vlachos Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 88	Interesting. I had been thinking of getting an HD monitor. In fact, I posted this yesterday in another section. I'm curious as to what your opinion is. I'll paste it below. Now I'm wondering if I could save a ton of money by getting an LCD TV. Still, it would be missing a lot of broadcast features. Anyway, my post was as follows: This may sound stupid, but I want to make sure before I go and buy one. My normal setup consists of my Mac Tower running Final Cut -> Firewire -> what used to be a DSR-11, now the HVR-M15U -> S-Video cable to a Sony CRT Broadcast monitor. This enabled me to monitor my work, do color correction, etc. Never a problem with this, except for the documented FCP corrupt preferences glitch occasionally, which would cause it to lose the video, but is easily fixable. So I was thinking of replacing the trusty Sony monitor with the Panny BT-LH1700W because I want 16:9 and HD. I don't love LCD's, but I cannot afford a broadcast CRT. That's NOT my question here, though, and I"ll reasearch that more on my own from the numerous threads here. I want to make sure that, if I maintain this setup and connect through the component out of the Sony deck to the Panasonic monitor, it will still work. I don't see why it would not in HDV, but I am asking you who are more experienced for your advice. __________________ One day at a time.

January 6th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#7
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	With my Matrox Parhelia APVe I get two PC monitors plus on HDTV. I like it. I just wish they would come out with a version that worked better with After Effects 3D stuff. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

January 7th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#9
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I'm going to start chucking beer cans at everyone who derailed my thread! Full ones! But of PBR so you don't want to drink it! :) If we can get back to my original topic for just a second (and so I don't have to delete all your posts)... GIVEN A MULTIPLE MONITOR SETUP, DO YOU PREFER WIDESCREEN OR STANDARD LCD COMPUTER MONITORS FOR EDITING??? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

January 5th, 2007, 09:24 PM	#2
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	If you keep all 3 monitors then ... sure. But personally, I replaced 3 monitors with one large widescreen plus a widescreen LCD-TV fed by component cables.

January 6th, 2007, 01:25 PM	#4
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Actually that was my main reason for using an LCD TV, because I was confident it would use HD colorspace properly. Maybe I havent looked in the right places, but I've never been sure how computer monitors apply colorspace maticies. Probably they do it just fine, but I've never really understood how its handled.

January 6th, 2007, 02:45 PM	#6
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Paul, I'm on a PC, so won't be of much help. As the previous post says, you can't pass HDV realtime via firewire for monitoring (at least without without some sort of extra hardware decoding step). I send HD-component out from my videocard direct to my LCD TV. With Windows' multidisplay support, I can then see the timeline and monitor windows on the computer monitor, plus a fullscreen video image on the LCD.

January 7th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#8
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	I currently use two wide screen LCDs for my setup. I think they give me the area of 3 crts. I would definitely look into the native resolution of what your buying. Dylan: May I suggest... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116065 Looking now, this is what I bought. Got 3, two for this comp and 1 for my audio machine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254005 It's a GREAT screen!

January 7th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#10
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	I would definitely go wide screen. I use one monitor for my premiere tools/effects/timeline, the other screen just has my preview window/source window tabs. So I get as much space as possible for my 16:9 video on one screen, while comfortably fitting everything else on the other. Go widescreen, look into that Hanns-G, I bought 3 and would recommend it.

January 7th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#11
Paul Vlachos Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 88	Wide screen, it's a no-brainer. It's 2007. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary, etc. __________________ One day at a time.

January 7th, 2007, 03:10 PM	#12
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	If I had it to do over again, I would probably go widescreen. But I would get the kind that can rotate so I could work on some of my stills in the "proper" orientation. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

January 7th, 2007, 03:29 PM	#13
Dave Campbell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 568	I am going with two HPLP3065 wide screens driven from a Nvidia FX4500 dual link card. Boy is it great. :o) I have do dump my matrox apve cards since they dont do dual link. :o( Dave

January 8th, 2007, 07:54 AM	#14
Jim Harmon New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: White Hall, AR Posts: 15	What resolution widescreen monitor would one want in order to edit HD captures? The widescreen monitors on newegg are either 1920 x 1200, 1680 x 1050, or 1440 x 900 (i.e., all of them are 1.6:1, not 1.78 which is 16:9).

January 8th, 2007, 11:12 AM	#15
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	If you get a 1920X1200 the HDV will not fill up the entire monitor, but so what? You get all of the pixels. That is all that counts. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com