Anyone recognise what jib can create these camera movements? at DVinfo.net

Ramon Brown · August 17th, 2006, 05:57 PM

I recently came across this site, http://www.pronghornclub.com/home.jsp, and noticed how good the camera movements were in the movie that is displayed in the lower left corner. Pretty amazing stuff. There seems to be some shots that looks like they are using a huge camera crane to get the low-to-high perspective movements. Anyone know what kind of crane or how big they are using to achieve something like that?

Andrew Dean · August 20th, 2006, 10:46 AM

wow. thats gotta be like a 40 foot jib. And excellent execution too. i'm impressed.

Jeff Nelson · August 21st, 2006, 12:19 AM

Just email them at the website and ask who produced it, then ask them. I'd be curious to know, too.

Graham Bernard · August 21st, 2006, 12:59 AM

wow . . . I'm giving up . ..

Could this be a case for a radio-controlled helo? I've seen some amazing footage from a South African team that employed such an aerial option. That too was remarkable.

What do you think of the whitewater stuff? Amazing! At one point I thought CG?

Frank Hool · August 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM

1. lens - You have to use in most cases very wide lens to get as much as possible moving objects to the screen and to reduce any shake coming from jib.

2. right placement of jib - it's always good to have relatively big objects near of camera to emphasise camera movement and depth of scene.

Those both conditions are in this video perfectly satisfied. Result is stunning.

Jeff Nelson · August 21st, 2006, 02:47 PM

I emailed them, the shot was done by http://www.fluid-images.com/

They have done a huge number including major features, they say they have the biggest crane out there. Check out their shots!

From their site:

As the creators of the world's tallest camera cranes -- the Akela and Strada -- and a proprietary Hook-n-Release Steadi-cam system, no other company in the world has Fluid Images' exclusive production capabilities.

Ramon Brown · August 22nd, 2006, 10:54 AM

thanks a lot guys for all the responses. Fluid-images.com are definitley the pros out there thay we all should be emulating. I appreciate everyone looking into this and hopefully we all someday can pull off some amazing shots just like these guys can do.

Andy Graham · August 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM

That thing is insane.....I gotta get me one of those!

wonder if they sell them on ebay!

Andy.

Tom Wills · August 22nd, 2006, 09:51 PM

Looked like some of that was Steadicam. Plus, the Strada crane has the option hook-and-release system, which allows for a Steadicam op to be picked up mid shot, and then dropped back and have him walk off. Incredibly drool-worthy stuff there.

Ken Diewert · August 22nd, 2006, 11:22 PM

Wow! That's incredible stuff.

Can you imagine the daily rental rate.

Jeff Phelps · August 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM

Back when I worked construction you could get a cherry picker for about $300 a day. It's probably double that today. Pretty pricey just for the crane but within range of a serious budget. Nicely done video for sure.

Pat Miller · August 23rd, 2006, 03:53 AM

Looks like alot of Technocrane work, the 30' model.

Jeff Nelson · August 26th, 2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Phelps

Back when I worked construction you could get a cherry picker for about $300 a day. It's probably double that today. Pretty pricey just for the crane but within range of a serious budget. Nicely done video for sure.

Try around 5 grand a day which includes delivery and 3 techs. Quite reasonable, actually.

Jeff Phelps · August 26th, 2006, 10:25 PM

I wasn't talking about this setup. I was pointing out how much the crane alone would cost at a minimum. I knew this setup would be far more than that price. Someone mentioned how much it would cost and I pointed out that cranes alone were not ridiculously expensive. I'm sure $5k is very reasonable for this setup. I was trying to point out that it likely wasn't exorbitant at all.

Matt Lown · September 14th, 2006, 12:20 PM

I have a 32' model that acheives these same shots, It was used by ESPN and Discovery channel as a rental model.
Im now trying to free up space in my shop.
Email me with any questions
Asking 2400 OBO
mattdk387@hotmail.com

August 17th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#1
Ramon Brown New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 11	Anyone recognise what jib can create these camera movements? I recently came across this site, http://www.pronghornclub.com/home.jsp, and noticed how good the camera movements were in the movie that is displayed in the lower left corner. Pretty amazing stuff. There seems to be some shots that looks like they are using a huge camera crane to get the low-to-high perspective movements. Anyone know what kind of crane or how big they are using to achieve something like that?

August 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM	#5
Frank Hool Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Barca Spain Posts: 384	what makes most jib shots so breathtaking? 1. lens - You have to use in most cases very wide lens to get as much as possible moving objects to the screen and to reduce any shake coming from jib. 2. right placement of jib - it's always good to have relatively big objects near of camera to emphasise camera movement and depth of scene. Those both conditions are in this video perfectly satisfied. Result is stunning.

August 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM	#8
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	That thing is insane.....I gotta get me one of those! wonder if they sell them on ebay! Andy. __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

August 22nd, 2006, 11:22 PM	#10
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Wow! That's incredible stuff. Can you imagine the daily rental rate. __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX

August 23rd, 2006, 03:53 AM	#12
Pat Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 52	TechnoCrane Looks like alot of Technocrane work, the 30' model.

August 20th, 2006, 10:46 AM	#2
Andrew Dean Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Motukarara, New Zealand Posts: 475	wow. thats gotta be like a 40 foot jib. And excellent execution too. i'm impressed.

August 21st, 2006, 12:19 AM	#3
Jeff Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 194	Just email them at the website and ask who produced it, then ask them. I'd be curious to know, too.

August 21st, 2006, 12:59 AM	#4
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	wow . . . I'm giving up . .. Could this be a case for a radio-controlled helo? I've seen some amazing footage from a South African team that employed such an aerial option. That too was remarkable. What do you think of the whitewater stuff? Amazing! At one point I thought CG?

August 21st, 2006, 02:47 PM	#6
Jeff Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 194	I emailed them, the shot was done by http://www.fluid-images.com/ They have done a huge number including major features, they say they have the biggest crane out there. Check out their shots! From their site: As the creators of the world's tallest camera cranes -- the Akela and Strada -- and a proprietary Hook-n-Release Steadi-cam system, no other company in the world has Fluid Images' exclusive production capabilities.

August 22nd, 2006, 10:54 AM	#7
Ramon Brown New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 11	thanks a lot guys for all the responses. Fluid-images.com are definitley the pros out there thay we all should be emulating. I appreciate everyone looking into this and hopefully we all someday can pull off some amazing shots just like these guys can do.

August 22nd, 2006, 09:51 PM	#9
Tom Wills Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 326	Looked like some of that was Steadicam. Plus, the Strada crane has the option hook-and-release system, which allows for a Steadicam op to be picked up mid shot, and then dropped back and have him walk off. Incredibly drool-worthy stuff there.

August 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM	#11
Jeff Phelps Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Franklin Furnace, Ohio Posts: 74	Back when I worked construction you could get a cherry picker for about $300 a day. It's probably double that today. Pretty pricey just for the crane but within range of a serious budget. Nicely done video for sure.

August 26th, 2006, 10:25 PM	#14
Jeff Phelps Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Franklin Furnace, Ohio Posts: 74	I wasn't talking about this setup. I was pointing out how much the crane alone would cost at a minimum. I knew this setup would be far more than that price. Someone mentioned how much it would cost and I pointed out that cranes alone were not ridiculously expensive. I'm sure $5k is very reasonable for this setup. I was trying to point out that it likely wasn't exorbitant at all.

September 14th, 2006, 12:20 PM	#15
Matt Lown New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Columbia SC Posts: 8	I have a 32' model that acheives these same shots, It was used by ESPN and Discovery channel as a rental model. Im now trying to free up space in my shop. Email me with any questions Asking 2400 OBO mattdk387@hotmail.com Last edited by Matt Lown; September 14th, 2006 at 02:40 PM.