422 SD or downconvert HDV? at DVinfo.net

Trevor Allin · July 17th, 2006, 06:35 AM

Hi

I am looking at buying a Bonsai drive that will connect to the component out of the HD100 and record 422 SD lossless.

What I am trying to find out is whether, for SD DVD's, it would be better to film in SD at 422 (Bonsai) or film in HDV 420 and down convert to SD?

I always find that downconverting from HVD to SD is much better quality than just filming in 420 SD.

Anyone help?

Thanks

Trevor

Steve Benner · July 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Downconverting HD to SD will give a higher quality than just SD.

Trevor Allin · July 17th, 2006, 11:13 AM

Hi Steve

Thanks for this. I know that hdv downconverted to mini dv is better that just mini dv. But the comparison I am looking for is with 422 dv captured from the component out of the camera (uncompressed).

kind regards

Trevor

Tim Dashwood · July 17th, 2006, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Allin

I am looking at buying a Bonsai drive that will connect to the component out of the HD100 and record 422 SD lossless.

The problem I should flag for you here is that, as far as I know, the component out only functions for 720P output, not NTSC or PAL. I think the downconverter built into the camera only outputs to the composite out.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember attempting to connect to a NTSC monitor with component cables and it wouldn't work. Maybe it works when the camera is in DV mode? This would require some testing.

Steve Benner · July 17th, 2006, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

The problem I should flag for you here is that, as far as I know, the component out only functions for 720P output, not NTSC or PAL. I think the downconverter built into the camera only outputs to the composite out.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember attempting to connect to a NTSC with component and it wouldn't work. Maybe it works when the camera is in DV mode? This would require some testing.

I also haven't heard anyone talk abou this either...very interesting.

Brian Luce · July 18th, 2006, 07:51 AM

Not to subvert this thread but I find it interesting that no one has come up with a definitive test of the best way to get a SD image from the hd100. I feel the world is still SD, so this seems like a million dollar question.

Jacques Menard · July 22nd, 2006, 06:17 AM

I thnik Tim is right. We have a number of tapes with the infamous broken streams and one way I thought of getting them right was to transfer through the component to DVCPro 50 then redigitize them from that deck into Liquid.

The DVCPro deck would not recognize the input styream from the BR HD 50's component out. The composite worked fine, but of course of no use.

July 17th, 2006, 06:35 AM	#1
Trevor Allin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152	422 SD or downconvert HDV? Hi I am looking at buying a Bonsai drive that will connect to the component out of the HD100 and record 422 SD lossless. What I am trying to find out is whether, for SD DVD's, it would be better to film in SD at 422 (Bonsai) or film in HDV 420 and down convert to SD? I always find that downconverting from HVD to SD is much better quality than just filming in 420 SD. Anyone help? Thanks Trevor

July 22nd, 2006, 06:17 AM	#7
Jacques Menard New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chelsea Canada Posts: 9	Component Out in SD I thnik Tim is right. We have a number of tapes with the infamous broken streams and one way I thought of getting them right was to transfer through the component to DVCPro 50 then redigitize them from that deck into Liquid. The DVCPro deck would not recognize the input styream from the BR HD 50's component out. The composite worked fine, but of course of no use.

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July 17th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#2
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	Downconverting HD to SD will give a higher quality than just SD.

July 17th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#3
Trevor Allin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152	Hi Steve Thanks for this. I know that hdv downconverted to mini dv is better that just mini dv. But the comparison I am looking for is with 422 dv captured from the component out of the camera (uncompressed). kind regards Trevor

July 18th, 2006, 07:51 AM	#6
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Not to subvert this thread but I find it interesting that no one has come up with a definitive test of the best way to get a SD image from the hd100. I feel the world is still SD, so this seems like a million dollar question.