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Don Litten September 27th, 2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynne Whelden (Post 1755553)
Don, I only just bought my first "trak phone," not cell phone mind you, a month ago (and didn't bother to renew it after the first month ran out). So I understand your confusion. I was thinking maybe the software came on a cd but I'm assuming it must come from a Sony web site. Here's a useful video on wi-fi's usage with the Action Cam:
Sony Action Camera WiFi Demo (HDR-AS15) - YouTube

Thanks Lynn. I was under the impression the memories app was just to play the files over WiFi.
That explains it completely.

Woody Sanford September 27th, 2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Litten (Post 1755608)
I know Mark but I buy them by the dozen for the GoPros. Lots of things to stick them on.

I actually stuck my flat one to the hook side of velcro and use velcro to mount to most things. Cuts down on how many I'd need, now I might just need a half dozen rather than buying the bulk packs to stick one on everything. Some things don't need to be that secure.

Don Litten September 27th, 2012 09:41 PM

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That's a good idea Woody and a lot of the mounts I use like magnets, wireless pan & tilt I built and my Jib/crane, use a standard 1/4" tripod mount.

Paul Cronin September 28th, 2012 09:35 AM

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Just sold all of my GoPro gear to move to this camera. Wifi will be a huge help for my use. Thanks for all the info posted and look forward to my first two cameras.

Woody Sanford September 28th, 2012 01:45 PM

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Just went and played in a stained creek. I don't have much for clear water around me.

Sony HDR AS15 playing in the creek - YouTube

Don Litten September 29th, 2012 09:42 AM

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Today's test was a learning experience. I learned it fogs worse than a GoPro. I need to see if there's enough space in the case for few grains of rice.

Noa Put September 29th, 2012 11:01 AM

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posted under wrong topic: deleted

Duane Steiner September 29th, 2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Litten (Post 1755865)
Today's test was a learning experience. I learned it fogs worse than a GoPro. I need to see if there's enough space in the case for few grains of rice.

I think Sony will be coming out with anti-fog things to put in the case.

Lynne Whelden September 29th, 2012 12:28 PM

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A couple tech questions....

1-Are Class 6 SD cards sufficient for use here?
2-Will Rycote's "micro windjammer" (dead cat) mic covers that work with 10mm diameter mics sufficient for use here?

Mark Rosenzweig September 29th, 2012 12:52 PM

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1. Class 6 is fine.

2. I have windjammers; one is large enough to cover both mics but you will have to trim them to fit as the mic holes are close to the lens.

Mark Rosenzweig September 29th, 2012 12:53 PM

Shooting with the AS15 at high bitrates
 
The Sony HDR AS15 puts out a clean HDMI signal including the sound from the microphone, which means you can record externally. I recorded with the Atomos Ninja2 using *144Mbps* Pro Res. The camera was recording at its native MP4 at *16Mbps*. Both recorded at 108030p. The uploaded file that contains both types of recordings (two scenes) is MP4 108030p at bitrate 26Mbps (combined in Vegas Pro). Thus you can see if there is a quality change if the bitrate were higher than what the camera uses. The internally recorded clip precedes the (original) Pro Res clip for each scene. See any difference?

Sony HDR AS15 Test Video: Comparison of Native 16Mbps Files with 144Mbps Pro Res Files - YouTube

Duane Steiner September 30th, 2012 03:51 PM

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Tested it out today on my car. Does not like heat. Was around 95 here and it keep shutting off. Sony needs a more open case for it.

Lynne Whelden September 30th, 2012 04:02 PM

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I wondered about the heat/sun factor. Maybe just painting it white would be an improvement?

Mark OConnell September 30th, 2012 04:30 PM

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Anyone know what the range is for the wifi?

Duane Steiner September 30th, 2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark OConnell (Post 1756075)
Anyone know what the range is for the wifi?

I walked away about 15 feet and it worked. Also worked inside the car when mounted on the back.

Duane Steiner September 30th, 2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynne Whelden (Post 1756070)
I wondered about the heat/sun factor. Maybe just painting it white would be an improvement?

I might buy another case on drill it out.

Mark OConnell September 30th, 2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Duane Steiner (Post 1756078)
I walked away about 15 feet and it worked. Also worked inside the car when mounted on the back.

Thanks Duane.

Don Litten September 30th, 2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duane Steiner (Post 1756078)
I walked away about 15 feet and it worked. Also worked inside the car when mounted on the back.

I used it at 50 feet yesterday.

Yes, the case is a problem and fogging is a problem and I had fits playing with the slo mo mode. It is not a P&S camera IMO.
It also has a lot of potential I think.

Duane Steiner September 30th, 2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynne Whelden (Post 1756070)
I wondered about the heat/sun factor. Maybe just painting it white would be an improvement?

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Originally Posted by Don Litten (Post 1756106)
I used it at 50 feet yesterday.

Yes, the case is a problem and fogging is a problem and I had fits playing with the slo mo mode. It is not a P&S camera IMO.
It also has a lot of potential I think.

That is one thing I like about my Contour, the rotating lens and mount makes it really easy to find a good position and no need for a case.

Woody Sanford October 1st, 2012 09:17 AM

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I haven't had an issue with fogging yet. I also haven't had heat shut it down yet but I did notice enough heat while shooting some time lapse's that I built a mount that let it be exposed for that.

DIY Open Mount for Sony HDR-AS15 Action Camera - YouTube

So far I've been a little over 20 yards from mine and still been able to run it with the phone but then I've also had interference at less than 5 feet from my blu-tooth ear piece.

Duane Steiner October 1st, 2012 11:08 AM

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Some slow motion tests.

Mounted on my car

My friend also did some with his

Laurence Janus October 3rd, 2012 10:38 PM

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Thanks a lot for those videos Duane. Those sort of shots are what I want one for.
I just had a look at the Action Cam at my local Sony Store and it looks pretty nice but it is a little disappointing that you always need the case! I will definitely be giving my drill a workout if I get one.

Don Litten October 4th, 2012 06:49 AM

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Look at Woody's posts Laurence. He came up with a cheap and very usable (I made one) out of case mount.
My only concern about using it out of the case is that on many POV lenses (Especially GoPro) the coating on the lens is extremely soft and easily damaged.

They just don't go to the extra expense of using hard coatings because it's supposed to be used in the case.

Woody Sanford October 4th, 2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Litten (Post 1756666)
Look at Woody's posts Laurence. He came up with a cheap and very usable (I made one) out of case mount.
My only concern about using it out of the case is that on many POV lenses (Especially GoPro) the coating on the lens is extremely soft and easily damaged.

They just don't go to the extra expense of using hard coatings because it's supposed to be used in the case.

Thanks for mentioning that. I did not consider that. I have been using it in the DIY mount quite a bit. I shot another cloud time lapse yesterday and let it run for an hour. Man, it got hot. It didn't shut down but I could not make a fist around it. It was as hot as coffee out of the pot. I shot using the DIY open mount and am glad I didn't try it in the full housing. I would NOT recommend shooting an hour long time lapse in the full housing.

I had originally thought that the heat issue was something internal that would just cause a card not to write or something small like that but this thing can get crazy hot.

cloud time lapse shot for an hour on Sony HDR-AS15 - YouTube

Brent Kaplan October 4th, 2012 11:53 AM

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How do you charge the battery in the camera ?

Woody Sanford October 4th, 2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Kaplan (Post 1756721)
How do you charge the battery in the camera ?

USB via laptop/computer. I haven't tried using the adapter I have in the truck yet, I'd have to look up the spec's for voltage on that but I would bet it would work fine.

Brent Kaplan October 4th, 2012 03:02 PM

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Doesnt seem to work goes to usb mode and drains the battery

Woody Sanford October 4th, 2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent Kaplan (Post 1756757)
Doesnt seem to work goes to usb mode and drains the battery

Don't turn it on. Leave off for a bit then plug into computer/laptop. You will see a light on the bottom and that means it is charging but don't turn it on or it will go into USB mode for data transfer and it does not charge in that mode.

Don Litten October 4th, 2012 04:31 PM

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Plug the USB in. I have to figure out what USB Micro it is so I can gt a spare. (There are a couple of micro configurations)

I don't like to charge anything in the computer USB. The computer tries to connect and if it does, it can cause a lot of problems. It's been known to brick GoPro's.

Just use a stand alone USB charger.

Brent Kaplan October 5th, 2012 11:32 AM

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Thanks everybody, I got it charged.

Duane Steiner October 6th, 2012 12:19 PM

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Anyone test yet to see if having WiFi on/off makes a difference in the amount of heat that the camera makes in the case?

Lynne Whelden October 6th, 2012 01:35 PM

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893351-REG/Sony_akalu1_LCD_Unit_For_Action.html
I don't know if I'm the last one to know this...but B&H now has the camcorder adapter picture posted. I didn't anticipate such a design.
Very compact.

Duane Steiner October 6th, 2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynne Whelden (Post 1757124)
Sony LCD Unit For Action Cam AKALU1 B&H Photo Video

I don't know if I'm the last one to know this...but B&H now has the camcorder adapter picture posted. I didn't anticipate such a design.
Very compact.

Looks interesting. Wonder what you do with the bottom door and if there is a tripod mount.

Woody Sanford October 6th, 2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Duane Steiner (Post 1757110)
Anyone test yet to see if having WiFi on/off makes a difference in the amount of heat that the camera makes in the case?

I'll try that this coming week. I did shoot a sunset time lapse in about 70 degrees as compared to the ones I shot in 85+ and it made a huge difference. I'll do a mid day one with wifi on and let it cool and one with it off.

Mark Rosenzweig October 7th, 2012 07:41 AM

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I also shot a cloud movement time-lapse outside, shooting for over an hour at 55 degrees ambient temperature. The camera only got a little warm. I shot in the waterproof case without the front door (no need for it).

Here is the video:

Sony HDR AS15 Action Cam Time Lapse: Clouds - YouTube

I also shot a 1.5-hour time lapse at the end of the day in 55-degree ambient temperature with the camera in the case with the front cover on (it was raining). The camera barely was warm at the end of the shoot:

Sony AS15 Action Cam Time Lapse Video: Cloud Movements at the End of a Rainy, Cloudy Day - YouTube

Lynne Whelden October 7th, 2012 11:53 AM

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893349-REG/Sony_vctta1_Tilt_Adapter_For_Action.html
As usual, our B&H friends are on top of it. Does anyone though have an idea what this is supposed to do or how it's supposed to attach on the bottom and to what might it attach?

Woody Sanford October 7th, 2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynne Whelden (Post 1757270)
Sony Tilt Adapter For Action Cam VCTTA1 B&H Photo Video

As usual, our B&H friends are on top of it. Does anyone though have an idea what this is supposed to do or how it's supposed to attach on the bottom and to what might it attach?

Lynne,

Looks to just be an adapter piece that mounts in between the housing and a QD mount or tripod mount. Just using the housing and the supplied QD mounts don't allow for tilting. Really, I think some sort of ball mount adapter would have worked better in this case as it would allow tilting on more than just one axis and 360 rotation.

I just got my suction cup mount this weekend and I'm surprised at the quality, it looks well built. I'll be trying it out this week for sure.

Don Litten October 8th, 2012 07:08 AM

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I tried out the headband this weekend while Deer hunting. It hugs my head better than the GoPro and the stabilization in the camera works like a charm.

I'm starting to like this better all the time but the blue channel still sucks with a big S. Hopefully they can and will fix that in a firmware upgrade.

Patrick R. Grier October 8th, 2012 08:08 AM

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I just bought the HDR-AS15 - Sony Action Camera
Put it on my helmet and went down a woodlands trail.
Edited the file with Adobe Premiere Elements 10 onto an AVCHD DVD
I was horrified by the artifacts, huge blotches popping into view down the trail ahead of me.
The footage was pleasant if I did not move down the trail.
To much detail for a little camera too handle?
Looking at the footage off the camera, (hdmi to TV) what I call artifacts is also present, in lesser degree.
I of course cannot find any 'salesmen' that have the slightest clue.
Is there any POV camera that does well on a helmet going down a single track bicycle trail?
I want to see leaves, not crawling porridge.
also use the POV.HD it has less artifacts, but enough to keep me looking
I guess I will try the Go Pro Hero 2 again, perhaps the protune will help?

Paul Cronin October 8th, 2012 09:09 AM

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They all have the artifacts problem they are small cheap cameras. But they are great when you need them. I just sold my supply of GoPro camera the first 1080p version since I was never happy with the picture. I do have a VIO POV that is better but not a small package.

From what I have seen the Sony looks great for a cheap POV.

You might want to check your codec in and editing codec and render. If you give that info we might be able to help you improve the footage.


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