D5100 or 550D

Duncan Craig · July 14th, 2011, 09:18 PM

Great Thanks.

It's also worth asking does the zoom in function allow you to more around the frame too. And does it stayed zoomed in while recording to help with focus pulls?

Thanks.

Vincent Oliver · July 15th, 2011, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

Vincent i'm very curious about your stuff.....
Where can i see it?

Sorry for the late reply. We are currently working on a new DVD title "a guide to HDSLR video" This should be released mid August. A sampler will be cover mounted on What Digital Camera magazine, October issue, out in September.

I will be setting up a web page with a sampler chapter on my web site photo-i.co.uk

Vincent Oliver · July 16th, 2011, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Craig

Great Thanks.

It's also worth asking does the zoom in function allow you to more around the frame too. And does it stayed zoomed in while recording to help with focus pulls?

Thanks.

No, once you start recording the zoom goes back to normal viewing.You can move the frame about by using the rear cursor keys. Press the centre OK button to instantly go back to full image view with the focus square back in the default location.

Duncan Craig · July 16th, 2011, 02:31 PM

OK well after watching this short:

I've ordered a D5100.

It's good to see properly structured narrative work, instead of the usual 'bloke film out of a window, drifting the shot around until you find something in focus' type stuff. The pictures looked very clean and it wasn't all about small DOF thanks goodness.

So the next thing will be to get my head around the locking down exposure situation.
I hope new firmware does come along to do this, it'll be easier to get repeatable results then.

Finger's crossed.

By the way I bought the UK spec D5100 from here:

BNIB ? NIKON D5100 DSLR CAMERA & 18-55mm ZOOM LENS KIT | eBay very cheap and with the 18-55VR (which I'll put on my D90 when I sell it)

Sareesh Sudhakaran · July 18th, 2011, 09:43 PM

Great video, Duncan. Thanks for sharing.

Vincent Oliver · July 19th, 2011, 02:21 AM

Interesting filming, not so sure it's a great story though.

I have noticed a lot of mediocre films appearing on the web. Are people being seduced by the fact that this was shot on a HDSLR and forgetting about the story.

I guess everything is still in it's infancy

Sareesh Sudhakaran · July 19th, 2011, 04:08 AM

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Are people being seduced by the fact that this was shot on a HDSLR and forgetting about the story.

I guess that's true. Nobody will be interested in footage from an XL-1 or a DVX100 anymore, would they?

Vincent Oliver · July 19th, 2011, 06:08 AM

"I guess that's true. Nobody will be interested in footage from an XL-1 or a DVX100 anymore, would they?"

Why not, if the story or visuals are good then who cares what it's been shot on.

The scenario is a bit like hearing a five year old virtuoso playing a Beethoven concerto, we are fascinated by the ability of the child, but the quality of performance and interpretation may be lacking in many ways.

The same holds true for HDSLR videos.

Wow, this was created with a Canon XXXD or Nikon DXXXX, the image quality is great, never mind the content, think of the camera it was shot on. Are we now in danger of this line of thought?

Whilst the Fragments video clip holds a small amount of interest, it's hardly a great video.

Sareesh Sudhakaran · July 19th, 2011, 09:55 PM

The context in which I mentioned it is in terms of those who are interested in HDSLR videography. Otherwise, content is everything.

Laurence Kingston · October 6th, 2011, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Bruner

Laurence -- I use the $25 Hoodman HD300 on my GH2's flip out LCD (which is 3" -- the same size as the D5100 screen). Very helpful in sunlight.

Bill
Hybrid Camera Revolution

I bought that one and while it did a nice job of showing the video, the numbers at the top and bottom of the screen are not visable.

I just ordered this one which should be a better fit (and let me see the info at the bottom of the LCD screen)

http://=http://www.amazon.com/3-Camc...7913295&sr=1-4

July 14th, 2011, 09:18 PM	#46
Duncan Craig Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 660 Images: 10	Re: D5100 or 550D Great Thanks. It's also worth asking does the zoom in function allow you to more around the frame too. And does it stayed zoomed in while recording to help with focus pulls? Thanks. __________________ FCPX/LS300/EX1/FS100/GoPro/Vinten/HotHead/Jib/Track/Dedos/Lightstorm/Coollights

July 16th, 2011, 02:31 PM	#49
Duncan Craig Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 660 Images: 10	Re: D5100 or 550D OK well after watching this short: Fragments on Vimeo I've ordered a D5100. It's good to see properly structured narrative work, instead of the usual 'bloke film out of a window, drifting the shot around until you find something in focus' type stuff. The pictures looked very clean and it wasn't all about small DOF thanks goodness. So the next thing will be to get my head around the locking down exposure situation. I hope new firmware does come along to do this, it'll be easier to get repeatable results then. Finger's crossed. By the way I bought the UK spec D5100 from here: BNIB ? NIKON D5100 DSLR CAMERA & 18-55mm ZOOM LENS KIT \| eBay very cheap and with the 18-55VR (which I'll put on my D90 when I sell it) __________________ FCPX/LS300/EX1/FS100/GoPro/Vinten/HotHead/Jib/Track/Dedos/Lightstorm/Coollights

July 18th, 2011, 09:43 PM	#50
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Re: D5100 or 550D Great video, Duncan. Thanks for sharing. __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.

July 19th, 2011, 02:21 AM	#51
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: D5100 or 550D Interesting filming, not so sure it's a great story though. I have noticed a lot of mediocre films appearing on the web. Are people being seduced by the fact that this was shot on a HDSLR and forgetting about the story. I guess everything is still in it's infancy __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

July 19th, 2011, 06:08 AM	#53
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Re: D5100 or 550D "I guess that's true. Nobody will be interested in footage from an XL-1 or a DVX100 anymore, would they?" Why not, if the story or visuals are good then who cares what it's been shot on. The scenario is a bit like hearing a five year old virtuoso playing a Beethoven concerto, we are fascinated by the ability of the child, but the quality of performance and interpretation may be lacking in many ways. The same holds true for HDSLR videos. Wow, this was created with a Canon XXXD or Nikon DXXXX, the image quality is great, never mind the content, think of the camera it was shot on. Are we now in danger of this line of thought? Whilst the Fragments video clip holds a small amount of interest, it's hardly a great video. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

July 19th, 2011, 09:55 PM	#54
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Re: D5100 or 550D The context in which I mentioned it is in terms of those who are interested in HDSLR videography. Otherwise, content is everything. __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.