Firewire card works...but no camera at DVinfo.net

Tao-ming Lin · December 1st, 2004, 10:06 AM

Everything was working fine, I was capturing via my firewire card from my DVX100 to Premiere Pro 1.5 on XP.

Then I upgraded my CPU and motherboard from P4 1.5 to a P4 3.2 (old and new motherboards are both Asus). Obviously I had to reinstall XP, Premiere, etc.

Now, when I plug my camera into the firewire port...no response. Nothing. System says the card's plugged in and working properly, but nothing.

I've tried fiddling with the 1394 settings, firewalls, swapping cards around, all to no avail. This is really getting on my nerves. There's just no reason for this to be happening.

Glenn Chan · December 1st, 2004, 04:00 PM

You could try grabbing a (new) firewire card to swap in. They're fairly cheap on pricewatch.com.

Tao-ming Lin · December 1st, 2004, 08:12 PM

Thanks, Glenn, I'll try that tonight to see if it works. Thing is, there's nothing wrong with this one; it worked with the old setup, so I'm wondering if that's the problem, or is it a settings problems.

We'll see, I guess.

Glenn Chan · December 1st, 2004, 08:17 PM

You could try swapping a different camera and firewire cable too.

If that doesn't do anything then start looking at software/configuration settings, or really simple things like no power or pushing the wrong buttons or trying the firewire port on your case (it won't work if not connected).

Tao-ming Lin · December 1st, 2004, 08:33 PM

I only have the one camera, so I'm kind of stuck there. However, I've tried two different cables, at least one of which I know worked before the upgrade. The card itself appears (according to XP system/hardware) to be plugged in and working. My camera, of course, was on and in the proper mode for capturing. My guess is that it's some kind of settings thing from a seemingly unrelated area of the system, but for the life of me I can't figure out what.

My friend has a firewire card I'm going to try tonight. If that works it means that this CPU/motherboard won't work with my particular card I guess. Anyone have any suggestions for a good universal firewire card that works with newer ASUS motherboards and P4 chips?

Tao-ming Lin · December 2nd, 2004, 08:57 AM

I tried another firewire card and it worked, but only after I took out the ethernet card. This is fine as the new motherboard has its own outlet for adsl cord. Still, weird. Thanks for your advice.

Ignacio Rodriguez · December 2nd, 2004, 10:20 AM

Try turning the camera off and back on with Premiere open. This worked for me at a friend's.

Tao-ming Lin · December 2nd, 2004, 10:31 AM

It works now, though my adsl routed through the motherboard internet port is now suddenly as slow as dialup. One problem causes another I guess.

Glenn Chan · December 3rd, 2004, 08:01 PM

It might be that your network card was having an IRQ conflict with your firewire card. To fix this:
A- Simply move the cards around the various slots. Certain slots are hard-wired so they HAVE to share an IRQ (which opens the possibility for an IRQ conflict).
B- To check whether your hardware is sharing IRQs (sometimes a problem), go to run --> msinfo32 (type in and hit enter) --> expand hardware resources --> expand "IRQs"

If your cards are using the same IRQ then move em around.

Jani Rosnell · December 8th, 2004, 01:03 PM

Downloaded Premiere Pro 1.5 Tryout and installed it.
My prob is that my JVC-GRD50 does work with premiere only partially:
In Capture-setting it says that camera is online. Still it reacts only every now and then when clicking rew,fwd,play,stop and so... Also capture window is black and timecode doesnt run at all.

This text appears above capture window:CANT ACTIVATE RECORDER; TRY RESETTING CAMERA.
I reset my cam, switch firewire ports,install cameras own drivers and nothing....

Everything worked fine with Premiere Pro 1.0 and also ImageMixer, which came with my camcorder, works just fine with my cam, both USB and Firewire.

I changed my Mobo too few days ago...could it be it...?

HELP!?

Ignacio Rodriguez · December 8th, 2004, 01:17 PM

You might want to try fooling around with the Device Control setting, try something different that "generic". Also, move the cable around. Sounds stupid but actually not al FW cables are created equal.

Jani Rosnell · December 8th, 2004, 01:29 PM

Tried to change device already; generic,jvc, whatever...
Also tried all 3 firewire ports already... :(
Even changed firewire card irself to 2 different pci slots.

EDIT: Also tried to capture with SCLive and it worked just fine so it's not hardware issue , I guess.....

EDIT2:SOLUTION HAS BEEN FOUND!!!! B)

There was some conflict with some other proggy (dunno exactly what it was because I uninstalled several, including SLD-codec pack and Sentinel system driver...).

Works fine now! Thank you guys anyway!

December 1st, 2004, 10:06 AM	#1
Tao-ming Lin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 159	Firewire card works...but no camera Everything was working fine, I was capturing via my firewire card from my DVX100 to Premiere Pro 1.5 on XP. Then I upgraded my CPU and motherboard from P4 1.5 to a P4 3.2 (old and new motherboards are both Asus). Obviously I had to reinstall XP, Premiere, etc. Now, when I plug my camera into the firewire port...no response. Nothing. System says the card's plugged in and working properly, but nothing. I've tried fiddling with the 1394 settings, firewalls, swapping cards around, all to no avail. This is really getting on my nerves. There's just no reason for this to be happening.

December 1st, 2004, 08:12 PM	#3
Tao-ming Lin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 159	Thanks, Glenn, I'll try that tonight to see if it works. Thing is, there's nothing wrong with this one; it worked with the old setup, so I'm wondering if that's the problem, or is it a settings problems. We'll see, I guess. __________________ Renegade Province Productions www.poagao.com

December 1st, 2004, 08:33 PM	#5
Tao-ming Lin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 159	I only have the one camera, so I'm kind of stuck there. However, I've tried two different cables, at least one of which I know worked before the upgrade. The card itself appears (according to XP system/hardware) to be plugged in and working. My camera, of course, was on and in the proper mode for capturing. My guess is that it's some kind of settings thing from a seemingly unrelated area of the system, but for the life of me I can't figure out what. My friend has a firewire card I'm going to try tonight. If that works it means that this CPU/motherboard won't work with my particular card I guess. Anyone have any suggestions for a good universal firewire card that works with newer ASUS motherboards and P4 chips? __________________ Renegade Province Productions www.poagao.com

December 2nd, 2004, 08:57 AM	#6
Tao-ming Lin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 159	I tried another firewire card and it worked, but only after I took out the ethernet card. This is fine as the new motherboard has its own outlet for adsl cord. Still, weird. Thanks for your advice. __________________ Renegade Province Productions www.poagao.com

December 2nd, 2004, 10:20 AM	#7
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Try turning the camera off and back on with Premiere open. This worked for me at a friend's. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

December 1st, 2004, 04:00 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You could try grabbing a (new) firewire card to swap in. They're fairly cheap on pricewatch.com.

December 1st, 2004, 08:17 PM	#4
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You could try swapping a different camera and firewire cable too. If that doesn't do anything then start looking at software/configuration settings, or really simple things like no power or pushing the wrong buttons or trying the firewire port on your case (it won't work if not connected).

December 2nd, 2004, 10:31 AM	#8
Tao-ming Lin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 159	It works now, though my adsl routed through the motherboard internet port is now suddenly as slow as dialup. One problem causes another I guess. __________________ Renegade Province Productions www.poagao.com

December 3rd, 2004, 08:01 PM	#9
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	It might be that your network card was having an IRQ conflict with your firewire card. To fix this: A- Simply move the cards around the various slots. Certain slots are hard-wired so they HAVE to share an IRQ (which opens the possibility for an IRQ conflict). B- To check whether your hardware is sharing IRQs (sometimes a problem), go to run --> msinfo32 (type in and hit enter) --> expand hardware resources --> expand "IRQs" If your cards are using the same IRQ then move em around.

December 8th, 2004, 01:03 PM	#10
Jani Rosnell Tourist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vantaa/Finland Posts: 2	ALSO THE SAME PROB... Downloaded Premiere Pro 1.5 Tryout and installed it. My prob is that my JVC-GRD50 does work with premiere only partially: In Capture-setting it says that camera is online. Still it reacts only every now and then when clicking rew,fwd,play,stop and so... Also capture window is black and timecode doesnt run at all. This text appears above capture window:CANT ACTIVATE RECORDER; TRY RESETTING CAMERA. I reset my cam, switch firewire ports,install cameras own drivers and nothing.... Everything worked fine with Premiere Pro 1.0 and also ImageMixer, which came with my camcorder, works just fine with my cam, both USB and Firewire. I changed my Mobo too few days ago...could it be it...? HELP!? __________________ Check this

December 8th, 2004, 01:17 PM	#11
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	You might want to try fooling around with the Device Control setting, try something different that "generic". Also, move the cable around. Sounds stupid but actually not al FW cables are created equal. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

December 8th, 2004, 01:29 PM	#12
Jani Rosnell Tourist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vantaa/Finland Posts: 2	Tried to change device already; generic,jvc, whatever... Also tried all 3 firewire ports already... :( Even changed firewire card irself to 2 different pci slots. EDIT: Also tried to capture with SCLive and it worked just fine so it's not hardware issue , I guess..... EDIT2:SOLUTION HAS BEEN FOUND!!!! B) There was some conflict with some other proggy (dunno exactly what it was because I uninstalled several, including SLD-codec pack and Sentinel system driver...). Works fine now! Thank you guys anyway! __________________ Check this