GS400 or VX1000 at DVinfo.net

Andrew Mills · November 5th, 2005, 09:47 AM

I am in need of a new cam right now and I cant decide what cam that I want to get. I just wanted to know what cam would produce a clearer image between the vx1000 and gs400 and which cam has more effective pixels. Thanks

Mathieu Ghekiere · November 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM

I don't know which one has the most pixels, but pixels aren't that important either in a video camera.

For what do you want to use it?
The VX1000 is a very old camera, especially when you compare it with a GS400.
But its chips are a little bit bigger.
If you want to do narrative work, films, you maybe better look at the pannys, because they will give you a faster filmlook then the sonys.
What's your budget?

Boyd Ostroff · November 5th, 2005, 10:44 AM

The GS400 has higher resolution, although smaller, CCD's. It is capable of producing real 16:9 which is something that the VX-1000, VX-2000 and VX-2100 can't do.

Of course there might be other reasons to choose the VX-1000, but it's getting really old and might have a limited lifespan.

Andrew Mills · November 5th, 2005, 11:42 AM

The reason why resolution and pixels are so important to me is because I need a cam that will produce a crystal clear image without artifacts. I got rid of my gl1 because the image was below mediocre and it produced too many artifacts.

Boyd Ostroff · November 5th, 2005, 02:38 PM

Depending on your expectations, you may be searching in vain. I did some test shots awhile ago to explore the level of detail in a wide shot with two different DV cameras. I used the PDX-10 which has three 1/4.7" CCD's with the same resolution as the GS-400. I compared these to the same scene shot by a VX-2000 which has larger but lower resolution chips. As a point of reference, I also took shots with a 5MP Nikon digital camera and downsampled them to 720x480 resolultion then compressed them with the DV codec.

Draw your own conclusions....

http://greenmist.com/dv/garden/

http://greenmist.com/dv/res/

Andrew Mills · November 5th, 2005, 04:07 PM

The links are not working.

Boyd Ostroff · November 5th, 2005, 04:14 PM

Hmm, they work for me and I've tried through two different ISP's....

Maybe just a temporary glitch?

Tony Tibbetts · November 5th, 2005, 05:23 PM

GS400 hands down. Great manual controls. Superb picture manipulation and adjustment. Amazing color reproduction. Real 16x9. Very compact. Best frame mode available, IMHO. The VX1000 is a good camera, but it's kind of a dinosaur.

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Andrew Mills New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hammonton,NJ Posts: 13	GS400 or VX1000 I am in need of a new cam right now and I cant decide what cam that I want to get. I just wanted to know what cam would produce a clearer image between the vx1000 and gs400 and which cam has more effective pixels. Thanks

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November 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM	#2
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I don't know which one has the most pixels, but pixels aren't that important either in a video camera. For what do you want to use it? The VX1000 is a very old camera, especially when you compare it with a GS400. But its chips are a little bit bigger. If you want to do narrative work, films, you maybe better look at the pannys, because they will give you a faster filmlook then the sonys. What's your budget?

November 5th, 2005, 10:44 AM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	The GS400 has higher resolution, although smaller, CCD's. It is capable of producing real 16:9 which is something that the VX-1000, VX-2000 and VX-2100 can't do. Of course there might be other reasons to choose the VX-1000, but it's getting really old and might have a limited lifespan.

November 5th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#4
Andrew Mills New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hammonton,NJ Posts: 13	The reason why resolution and pixels are so important to me is because I need a cam that will produce a crystal clear image without artifacts. I got rid of my gl1 because the image was below mediocre and it produced too many artifacts.

November 5th, 2005, 02:38 PM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Depending on your expectations, you may be searching in vain. I did some test shots awhile ago to explore the level of detail in a wide shot with two different DV cameras. I used the PDX-10 which has three 1/4.7" CCD's with the same resolution as the GS-400. I compared these to the same scene shot by a VX-2000 which has larger but lower resolution chips. As a point of reference, I also took shots with a 5MP Nikon digital camera and downsampled them to 720x480 resolultion then compressed them with the DV codec. Draw your own conclusions.... http://greenmist.com/dv/garden/ http://greenmist.com/dv/res/

November 5th, 2005, 04:07 PM	#6
Andrew Mills New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hammonton,NJ Posts: 13	The links are not working.

November 5th, 2005, 04:14 PM	#7
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Hmm, they work for me and I've tried through two different ISP's.... Maybe just a temporary glitch?

November 5th, 2005, 05:23 PM	#8
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	GS400 hands down. Great manual controls. Superb picture manipulation and adjustment. Amazing color reproduction. Real 16x9. Very compact. Best frame mode available, IMHO. The VX1000 is a good camera, but it's kind of a dinosaur.