GS100K - English version

Frank Granovski · August 23rd, 2003, 04:07 AM

I should add that there is a dealer here who sells PAL JVCs, Sonys and Panasonics. One Store is in Vancouver, the other in Richmond. The Panasonics are best because they come with a 1-year international warranty. They are all 1 CCD cams, though the dealer can get 3 chip cams in on special orders. The funny thing about these PAL cams, is they sell much cheaper than the NTSC versions. :)

PS: yes, all in English, thank you. :)

Frank Granovski · August 23rd, 2003, 04:11 AM

My wife is from Iran, with family still there plus scattered around the globe: Canada, USA, Australia, Israel, Sweden and Turkey. :(

Alex Zabrovsky · August 23rd, 2003, 04:20 AM

Wow, great ! Any chance you're visiting our humble place ? :-) Would be my pleasure to offer you a guesture. :-)

About PAl cams selling in Canada. Aren't you joking ? PAL is selling cheaper then NTSC ?? I'm in shock ! Can yuo figure there MX350 ?
BTW, you may want to warn yuor freinds/relatives from Israel willing to bring cam over from abroad (even PAL): international warranty itself doesn't mean a lot here (just like in many other countries) even though being called "International". First of all, there is no major Panasonic facility here in Israel (unlike Sony or Canon - most popular brands among people here), and besides, the barnd importer usually decides on its own whether to honor or not international warranty (and usually they decline - you can do nothing about it).
Even these having major roots here (again Canon, Sony, Minolta and some others) in most cases will decline and refuse to service the goods under international warranty if purchased abroad (though in some cases it is possible - as with Minolta).

Alex

Frank Granovski · August 23rd, 2003, 04:28 AM

Minolta is a good company. They even bring in Cokin filters in the USA and Canada.

Yes, the PAL cams are cheaper here because they are a specialty item intended mainly to be purchased as gifts abroad---hence, they're not a big seller.

Funny you happened to mention the MX350. The local dealer actually brought one in for a customer quite some time back, and I got a chance to have a look at it. But, alas, he can't get the MX350 any more. Plus that order was a one time thing. He tried to get the MX300 in, a few years back, but they were next to impossible to get. He's just stocking the mid to high end 1 chippers---with the odd special order for a 3-chip. The Sony 3-chip cams are easier to come by. I think he imports them from Hong Kong, not sure, though.

By the way, I sent you a pic.

Visit? Me. One day, but not now.

Alex Zabrovsky · August 23rd, 2003, 04:32 AM

OK, any day. :-)
Yeah, I recieved the picture - very nice, already replied you.

Do you think there might be chances to figure MX8 at this dealer ?

Alex

Frank Granovski · August 23rd, 2003, 04:34 AM

No. He can only get the latest cams. The MX8 hasn't been made for about a year or so. Okay, I'm off to sleep. It's going on 4:00 am here. Company in the morning.

Alex Zabrovsky · August 23rd, 2003, 04:35 AM

Also, if you mentioend Sony, do you nappen to know the price (at least approx) he would want for TRV 950E/940E ?

Alex

Frank Granovski · August 23rd, 2003, 04:37 AM

Alex, I'll find out for you. But special orders usually cost more. I'll call him Monday and post the info here if it's positive.

Alex Zabrovsky · August 23rd, 2003, 04:56 AM

Thanks a lot.

Alex

Amit Sawarkar · August 26th, 2003, 02:52 PM

u guys hijacked this thread... :)

we'll wait for the english version I guess, and then attempt an upgrade if possible..

till then we'll wait for any ideas.

cheers,
Amit

Alex Zabrovsky · August 26th, 2003, 03:01 PM

"till then we'll wait for any ideas."

The best one is to learn the controls from the translated sheets, or alternatively - learn japanese... :-)

Alex

Amit Sawarkar · August 26th, 2003, 03:51 PM

yeah.
Now that I am actually able to play with the cam, its no big deal.

the translations are very very helpful. I guess I was apprehensive about it before I got the cam.

cheers,
Amit

Alex Zabrovsky · August 26th, 2003, 04:14 PM

Yeah Amit, I'm close to the purchase of this cam from Alan (hopefully next week), and was also concerning abot this issue, but then realised that there is quite large community helping out each other, besides of translations available.
Besides of all that, the host of controsl and features isn't unlimited and I guess once commencing teh usage it will not be the reall issue.

(bearign in mind I was able to memorize all over 200 buttons and switches in fighting aircraft cockpit once servicing the fighters on the ground).

Alex

Amit Sawarkar · August 26th, 2003, 04:41 PM

wow, U seem to have a quite eventful career, from fighter plane cockpits, to engineering in digital video semiconductor industry.

so what DSP chips did you work with?

Alex Zabrovsky · August 27th, 2003, 01:27 AM

Well, the planes were during my army service.

We actually design and market our own digital still camera processors that include DSP on-silicon among other functional units that required to drive digital still camera.

I'm actually in system hardware application and customer support (camera system design issues)

visit: http://www.zoran.com

Alex

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August 23rd, 2003, 04:07 AM	#16
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I should add that there is a dealer here who sells PAL JVCs, Sonys and Panasonics. One Store is in Vancouver, the other in Richmond. The Panasonics are best because they come with a 1-year international warranty. They are all 1 CCD cams, though the dealer can get 3 chip cams in on special orders. The funny thing about these PAL cams, is they sell much cheaper than the NTSC versions. :) PS: yes, all in English, thank you. :)

August 23rd, 2003, 04:11 AM	#17
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	My wife is from Iran, with family still there plus scattered around the globe: Canada, USA, Australia, Israel, Sweden and Turkey. :(

August 23rd, 2003, 04:20 AM	#18
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	Wow, great ! Any chance you're visiting our humble place ? :-) Would be my pleasure to offer you a guesture. :-) About PAl cams selling in Canada. Aren't you joking ? PAL is selling cheaper then NTSC ?? I'm in shock ! Can yuo figure there MX350 ? BTW, you may want to warn yuor freinds/relatives from Israel willing to bring cam over from abroad (even PAL): international warranty itself doesn't mean a lot here (just like in many other countries) even though being called "International". First of all, there is no major Panasonic facility here in Israel (unlike Sony or Canon - most popular brands among people here), and besides, the barnd importer usually decides on its own whether to honor or not international warranty (and usually they decline - you can do nothing about it). Even these having major roots here (again Canon, Sony, Minolta and some others) in most cases will decline and refuse to service the goods under international warranty if purchased abroad (though in some cases it is possible - as with Minolta). Alex

August 23rd, 2003, 04:28 AM	#19
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Minolta is a good company. They even bring in Cokin filters in the USA and Canada. Yes, the PAL cams are cheaper here because they are a specialty item intended mainly to be purchased as gifts abroad---hence, they're not a big seller. Funny you happened to mention the MX350. The local dealer actually brought one in for a customer quite some time back, and I got a chance to have a look at it. But, alas, he can't get the MX350 any more. Plus that order was a one time thing. He tried to get the MX300 in, a few years back, but they were next to impossible to get. He's just stocking the mid to high end 1 chippers---with the odd special order for a 3-chip. The Sony 3-chip cams are easier to come by. I think he imports them from Hong Kong, not sure, though. By the way, I sent you a pic. Visit? Me. One day, but not now.

August 23rd, 2003, 04:32 AM	#20
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	OK, any day. :-) Yeah, I recieved the picture - very nice, already replied you. Do you think there might be chances to figure MX8 at this dealer ? Alex

August 23rd, 2003, 04:34 AM	#21
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	No. He can only get the latest cams. The MX8 hasn't been made for about a year or so. Okay, I'm off to sleep. It's going on 4:00 am here. Company in the morning.

August 23rd, 2003, 04:35 AM	#22
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	Also, if you mentioend Sony, do you nappen to know the price (at least approx) he would want for TRV 950E/940E ? Alex

August 23rd, 2003, 04:37 AM	#23
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Alex, I'll find out for you. But special orders usually cost more. I'll call him Monday and post the info here if it's positive.

August 23rd, 2003, 04:56 AM	#24
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	Thanks a lot. Alex

August 26th, 2003, 02:52 PM	#25
Amit Sawarkar Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pleasanton, California Posts: 35	u guys hijacked this thread... :) we'll wait for the english version I guess, and then attempt an upgrade if possible.. till then we'll wait for any ideas. cheers, Amit

August 26th, 2003, 03:01 PM	#26
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	"till then we'll wait for any ideas." The best one is to learn the controls from the translated sheets, or alternatively - learn japanese... :-) Alex

August 26th, 2003, 03:51 PM	#27
Amit Sawarkar Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pleasanton, California Posts: 35	yeah. Now that I am actually able to play with the cam, its no big deal. the translations are very very helpful. I guess I was apprehensive about it before I got the cam. cheers, Amit

August 26th, 2003, 04:14 PM	#28
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	Yeah Amit, I'm close to the purchase of this cam from Alan (hopefully next week), and was also concerning abot this issue, but then realised that there is quite large community helping out each other, besides of translations available. Besides of all that, the host of controsl and features isn't unlimited and I guess once commencing teh usage it will not be the reall issue. (bearign in mind I was able to memorize all over 200 buttons and switches in fighting aircraft cockpit once servicing the fighters on the ground). Alex

August 26th, 2003, 04:41 PM	#29
Amit Sawarkar Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pleasanton, California Posts: 35	wow, U seem to have a quite eventful career, from fighter plane cockpits, to engineering in digital video semiconductor industry. so what DSP chips did you work with?

August 27th, 2003, 01:27 AM	#30
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	Well, the planes were during my army service. We actually design and market our own digital still camera processors that include DSP on-silicon among other functional units that required to drive digital still camera. I'm actually in system hardware application and customer support (camera system design issues) visit: http://www.zoran.com Alex