DV852 vs GS100 at DVinfo.net

Penelope Taynt · February 4th, 2004, 12:39 PM

OK everybody knows that the 852 is the best camera for $600 and the GS100 is the best for $1200, question is, what am i getting for double the price? If anyone can breakdown the "upgraded" features ...

Rich Perna · February 4th, 2004, 01:26 PM

Bigger LCD (3.5" vs. 2.5"), better color, and there's the definate "cool" factor of having a camcorder that you can't buy in the US yet.

The downside to the Panny 3 chippers is that the low-light isn't that great. OK, but not great. One of the perceived benefits of the GS100 over the DV953 is better low-light, but I still read complaints on this board and others over the GS100's low-light capabilities. I think you'll find the 852 to be better in those situations.

Tommy Haupfear · February 4th, 2004, 01:34 PM

In addition to what Rich has mentioned:

The GS100 has a high resolution 16:9 mode along with frame mode. The Pro Cinema mode combines the two along with cine-like gamma for an impressive look. The GS100 is also a little shorter and smaller than the DV852.

I thoroughly enjoyed my MX1000 (same as DV852 but with 3.5" LCD) and if it had a quality 16:9 mode I'd probably still have it. The DV852 has great color accuracy for a single chipper that comes close to the 3CCD mark (IMO).

One last point that matters to some is that the GS100 loads its tapes from the top versus the bottom loading DV852. Top loading is helpful when changing out tapes on a tripod without having to remove the cam.

Allan Rejoso · February 4th, 2004, 11:18 PM

Others things not available in the 852.

Pro/Advanced Features
Bass Enhancer
Crystal Engine
Low Dispersion Lens
Smooth Colored Night Mode (1/8 - 1/500)
Tele Macro
Skin Detail
Slow Shutter Speeds under Still Mode
Wired Remote with Built-In Mic
Magic Strap
Black body

On paper, minimum lux rating is the same: 12 lux

Young Lee · February 5th, 2004, 01:57 AM

What is Bass Enhancer for?

Guy Bruner · February 5th, 2004, 06:22 AM

Quote:

What is Bass Enhancer for?

It's for those fishing shows. It makes a 4 pounder look like an 8 pounder. ;-)

Frank Granovski · February 5th, 2004, 06:30 AM

Yup. Silver bass, smallmouth, rock bass---they're good eatin'. :-))

That would be the bass for the audio, would it not?

Patricia Kim · February 5th, 2004, 02:08 PM

Magic strap is the most outstanding feature, actually. Unparalleled refinement.

Allan Rejoso · February 5th, 2004, 04:44 PM

Oops I forgot something even cooler than magic strap.

Air soft grip.

Does the 852 have an extra record/pause button at the lens barrel too?

Yeah, that's bass for audio. Under procinema, cam is set to +6db, but manual setting is possible (0,3,6dB) through menu operation.

Yow Cheong Hoe · February 5th, 2004, 06:24 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : The DV852 has great color accuracy for a single chipper that comes close to the 3CCD mark (IMO). -->>>

That's not fair, Tommy, I share your opinion, too, having owned the MX8.

That's IOO (In our opinions).

:-)

Aykut Ozen · February 6th, 2004, 02:21 AM

Panasonic DV852 is a very good cam...Dv852 vs GS100k vs dvx100 vs whatever?...it's all about the purpose you are using the cam plus your talent and creativity and plus of course your Money:) = knowing what you will use it for.I use the camera to capture the motion that I usually plan in my head(music videos,indie shorts) and use Vegas video,NLEs,pc for color correction,fx,artistic stuff ect. and dv852 does it way better than it's competitors so far.The only major minus about the dv852 is no quality 16:9(which i do it in post)...is it worth an other $500? again depends on your choice,your artistic vision.I would say buy the dv852 use it nicely and you can always sell it and upgrade for the better...That's how i think..step by step...

dv852 also has very good low light and wider lens than most.It's bigger than dv953 and gs100k...i like bigger cams...the design of the cam is beautiful comparing to lots of other silly shape S*ny,C*non consumer models:)

I will be shooting a music video with my dv852 soon,It will be great and i will share it with you guys when it's done.

Good luck!

February 4th, 2004, 12:39 PM	#1
Penelope Taynt New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Where's Amanda? Posts: 16	DV852 vs GS100 OK everybody knows that the 852 is the best camera for $600 and the GS100 is the best for $1200, question is, what am i getting for double the price? If anyone can breakdown the "upgraded" features ... __________________ Please.

February 5th, 2004, 06:24 PM	#10
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : The DV852 has great color accuracy for a single chipper that comes close to the 3CCD mark (IMO). -->>> That's not fair, Tommy, I share your opinion, too, having owned the MX8. That's IOO (In our opinions). :-) __________________ Cam: Panasonic MX350EN, SOLD my MX8EN Mac: G3 400MHz PowerBook, 256 MB, OS 9 PC: Pentium 4 2800MHz, 512 MB, WindowsXP SW: iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Video Studio, various little utilities

February 6th, 2004, 02:21 AM	#11
Aykut Ozen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle,wa Posts: 39	consumer cam with a prosumer mind Panasonic DV852 is a very good cam...Dv852 vs GS100k vs dvx100 vs whatever?...it's all about the purpose you are using the cam plus your talent and creativity and plus of course your Money:) = knowing what you will use it for.I use the camera to capture the motion that I usually plan in my head(music videos,indie shorts) and use Vegas video,NLEs,pc for color correction,fx,artistic stuff ect. and dv852 does it way better than it's competitors so far.The only major minus about the dv852 is no quality 16:9(which i do it in post)...is it worth an other $500? again depends on your choice,your artistic vision.I would say buy the dv852 use it nicely and you can always sell it and upgrade for the better...That's how i think..step by step... dv852 also has very good low light and wider lens than most.It's bigger than dv953 and gs100k...i like bigger cams...the design of the cam is beautiful comparing to lots of other silly shape Sny,Cnon consumer models:) I will be shooting a music video with my dv852 soon,It will be great and i will share it with you guys when it's done. Good luck!

February 4th, 2004, 01:26 PM	#2
Rich Perna New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8	Bigger LCD (3.5" vs. 2.5"), better color, and there's the definate "cool" factor of having a camcorder that you can't buy in the US yet. The downside to the Panny 3 chippers is that the low-light isn't that great. OK, but not great. One of the perceived benefits of the GS100 over the DV953 is better low-light, but I still read complaints on this board and others over the GS100's low-light capabilities. I think you'll find the 852 to be better in those situations.

February 4th, 2004, 01:34 PM	#3
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	In addition to what Rich has mentioned: The GS100 has a high resolution 16:9 mode along with frame mode. The Pro Cinema mode combines the two along with cine-like gamma for an impressive look. The GS100 is also a little shorter and smaller than the DV852. I thoroughly enjoyed my MX1000 (same as DV852 but with 3.5" LCD) and if it had a quality 16:9 mode I'd probably still have it. The DV852 has great color accuracy for a single chipper that comes close to the 3CCD mark (IMO). One last point that matters to some is that the GS100 loads its tapes from the top versus the bottom loading DV852. Top loading is helpful when changing out tapes on a tripod without having to remove the cam.

February 4th, 2004, 11:18 PM	#4
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Others things not available in the 852. Pro/Advanced Features Bass Enhancer Crystal Engine Low Dispersion Lens Smooth Colored Night Mode (1/8 - 1/500) Tele Macro Skin Detail Slow Shutter Speeds under Still Mode Wired Remote with Built-In Mic Magic Strap Black body On paper, minimum lux rating is the same: 12 lux

February 5th, 2004, 01:57 AM	#5
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	What is Bass Enhancer for?

February 5th, 2004, 06:30 AM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yup. Silver bass, smallmouth, rock bass---they're good eatin'. :-)) That would be the bass for the audio, would it not?

February 5th, 2004, 02:08 PM	#8
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Magic strap is the most outstanding feature, actually. Unparalleled refinement.

February 5th, 2004, 04:44 PM	#9
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Oops I forgot something even cooler than magic strap. Air soft grip. Does the 852 have an extra record/pause button at the lens barrel too? Yeah, that's bass for audio. Under procinema, cam is set to +6db, but manual setting is possible (0,3,6dB) through menu operation.