Sharp VL-Z800U vs Optura Xi or? at DVinfo.net

Frank Granovski · April 15th, 2004, 03:01 PM

With new 1-chip models coming out, I wonder which one will come out on top. Have the cam makers released new info in way of the 2004 1-chip line-up yet? What's new from Pana? Are the DV852's glory days now gone? What about the JVC GR-DV900U? Looks good on paper, anyone own one?

Tommy Haupfear · April 15th, 2004, 07:00 PM

Not sure about the Xi but the Optura 300 (its vertical sibling) is already on clearance.

Frank Granovski · April 15th, 2004, 07:32 PM

Maybe there's Canon replacements in the works. Let's hope they won't need to suck light.

Allan Rejoso · April 15th, 2004, 08:18 PM

Frank, Canon's 2004 releases so far have better lux ratings. The FV100 is rated 7 lux according to Canon Japan. That's a lot of improvement over the 24 and 22 lux ratings of the 300 and Xi respectively.

BTW, the FV100 is one nice cam (would have been nicer if it had a manual focus ring). Image wise, better than the GS200, HC40, Z800/900 in my opinion (its nearest competitors). Very sharp and clean. Color wise, GS200 is richer but as always, Canon's color saturation is warm and natural. If only Canon will make available the manual adjustments similar to Panny, and if only Canon will use the same quality LCD as Panny or Sharp.

Frank Granovski · April 15th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Do you have a link for the FV100?

Allan Rejoso · April 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM

http://cweb.canon.jp/dv/lineup/fvm100kit/index.html

That cam will be available in the US as well but under a different Model No. I remember reading an article in Camcorderinfo.com about the US version of the FVM100. Robin are you there?

Frank Granovski · April 15th, 2004, 09:33 PM

Wow! Looks like a nice cam. It takes me back to the PV-DV601 days. :-)) 1/3" CCD? Progressive scan? OIS? Full widscreen? (I can't read Japanese.)

Frank Granovski · April 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM

Er, any more on the Sharp VL-Z800U?

Curtis Rhoads · April 16th, 2004, 12:24 AM

Looks like the FVM100 line is the Elura line here in the states.

http://www.canondv.com/elura60_65_70..._70_flash.html

Frank Granovski · April 16th, 2004, 01:45 AM

Ohh, it's part of the Elura line. So it's not going to be top dog. I guess either the Optura XI will stay or get replaced.

Curtis Rhoads · April 16th, 2004, 12:04 PM

I keep hoping that Canon will follow Panasonic's lead and release a consumer based 3CCD cam for under $1500! :-)

Of course that will probably never happen, but at least the Xi is a step in the right direction.

Too bad the Elura line doesn't have a focus ring. I would have bought one, especially since it's supposedly using the same 16:9 technique that the Xi uses, widening the angle when capturing to 16:9.

April 15th, 2004, 03:01 PM	#1
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Sharp VL-Z800U vs Optura Xi or? With new 1-chip models coming out, I wonder which one will come out on top. Have the cam makers released new info in way of the 2004 1-chip line-up yet? What's new from Pana? Are the DV852's glory days now gone? What about the JVC GR-DV900U? Looks good on paper, anyone own one?

April 15th, 2004, 07:00 PM	#2
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Not sure about the Xi but the Optura 300 (its vertical sibling) is already on clearance.

April 15th, 2004, 07:32 PM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Maybe there's Canon replacements in the works. Let's hope they won't need to suck light.

April 15th, 2004, 08:18 PM	#4
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Frank, Canon's 2004 releases so far have better lux ratings. The FV100 is rated 7 lux according to Canon Japan. That's a lot of improvement over the 24 and 22 lux ratings of the 300 and Xi respectively. BTW, the FV100 is one nice cam (would have been nicer if it had a manual focus ring). Image wise, better than the GS200, HC40, Z800/900 in my opinion (its nearest competitors). Very sharp and clean. Color wise, GS200 is richer but as always, Canon's color saturation is warm and natural. If only Canon will make available the manual adjustments similar to Panny, and if only Canon will use the same quality LCD as Panny or Sharp.

April 15th, 2004, 08:32 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Do you have a link for the FV100?

April 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM	#6
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	http://cweb.canon.jp/dv/lineup/fvm100kit/index.html That cam will be available in the US as well but under a different Model No. I remember reading an article in Camcorderinfo.com about the US version of the FVM100. Robin are you there?

April 15th, 2004, 09:33 PM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Wow! Looks like a nice cam. It takes me back to the PV-DV601 days. :-)) 1/3" CCD? Progressive scan? OIS? Full widscreen? (I can't read Japanese.)

April 15th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Er, any more on the Sharp VL-Z800U?

April 16th, 2004, 12:24 AM	#9
Curtis Rhoads Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orem, UT Posts: 76	Looks like the FVM100 line is the Elura line here in the states. http://www.canondv.com/elura60_65_70..._70_flash.html

April 16th, 2004, 01:45 AM	#10
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Ohh, it's part of the Elura line. So it's not going to be top dog. I guess either the Optura XI will stay or get replaced.

April 16th, 2004, 12:04 PM	#11
Curtis Rhoads Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orem, UT Posts: 76	I keep hoping that Canon will follow Panasonic's lead and release a consumer based 3CCD cam for under $1500! :-) Of course that will probably never happen, but at least the Xi is a step in the right direction. Too bad the Elura line doesn't have a focus ring. I would have bought one, especially since it's supposedly using the same 16:9 technique that the Xi uses, widening the angle when capturing to 16:9.