How to disable unsharp masking on a DV953? at DVinfo.net

Emre Safak · August 21st, 2005, 06:43 PM

I notice halos--a tell-tale sign of unsharp masking--on my videos. I want to see what the capture would look like without it.

Kyle Ringin · August 21st, 2005, 08:09 PM

Have you tried turning the sharpness setting on the camera all the way down?

Emre Safak · August 21st, 2005, 09:10 PM

I did not see such a setting! Where on the menu is it?

Kyle Ringin · August 22nd, 2005, 07:54 PM

I have an MX500. In camera mode, exposure set to manual -
menu->camera functions->advanced functions->picture adjust.
I have it set all the way down.
If you set exposure to auto it might ignore this setting but there is a workaround for that if you're interested.

Emre Safak · August 22nd, 2005, 08:10 PM

Hey... how about that; I never saw that feature! So does it do any good? What setting do you use? I simply do not want any unnecessary filtering.

Kyle Ringin · August 22nd, 2005, 08:31 PM

I have it all the way down all the time (I also have the colour set a fair way down) - I think it looks heaps better. The camera is effectively applying a filter to sharpen it, so all you are doing is removing that filter.

Do a few tests with different levels and play them back on a tv and see what you like.

Joshua Provost · August 23rd, 2005, 08:18 AM

Emre,

Here is a page I put together for the Picture Adjustments on the GS400, very similar to the DV953: http://www.matterofchance.com/gs400/

I think lately I have been using Color @ -3, Sharpness @ -3, Exposure @ 0, and Contrast @ -5.

Josh

Kyle Ringin · August 23rd, 2005, 07:53 PM

I was trying to remember where I'd seen that info to refer to it, but I couldn't find the page, thanks.

Joshua Provost · August 24th, 2005, 08:55 AM

An interesting thing about the sharpening, and you can see this in the images, is that it makes everything look like it's in focus. Now, these cameras already have incredibly deep depth of field, which is not very "film like." And the sharpening only makes this worse, making out-of-focus objects really sharp.

If you take a look at it, with sharpening down, I must admit, the picture looks pretty soft. That may be because I didn't have the focus on the guitars perfect. Having sharpening turned down will make it all the more important to get really accurate focus.

Leigh Wanstead · August 24th, 2005, 01:44 PM

Hi Joshua,

I completely agree with you on this point.

Regards
Leigh

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Originally Posted by Joshua Provost

An interesting thing about the sharpening, and you can see this in the images, is that it makes everything look like it's in focus. Now, these cameras already have incredibly deep depth of field, which is not very "film like." And the sharpening only makes this worse, making out-of-focus objects really sharp.

If you take a look at it, with sharpening down, I must admit, the picture looks pretty soft. That may be because I didn't have the focus on the guitars perfect. Having sharpening turned down will make it all the more important to get really accurate focus.

August 21st, 2005, 06:43 PM	#1
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	How to disable unsharp masking on a DV953? I notice halos--a tell-tale sign of unsharp masking--on my videos. I want to see what the capture would look like without it.

August 23rd, 2005, 08:18 AM	#7
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Emre, Here is a page I put together for the Picture Adjustments on the GS400, very similar to the DV953: http://www.matterofchance.com/gs400/ I think lately I have been using Color @ -3, Sharpness @ -3, Exposure @ 0, and Contrast @ -5. Josh __________________ Owner/Operator, 727 Records Co-Founder, Matter of Chance Productions Blogger, Try Avoidance

August 24th, 2005, 08:55 AM	#9
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	An interesting thing about the sharpening, and you can see this in the images, is that it makes everything look like it's in focus. Now, these cameras already have incredibly deep depth of field, which is not very "film like." And the sharpening only makes this worse, making out-of-focus objects really sharp. If you take a look at it, with sharpening down, I must admit, the picture looks pretty soft. That may be because I didn't have the focus on the guitars perfect. Having sharpening turned down will make it all the more important to get really accurate focus. __________________ Owner/Operator, 727 Records Co-Founder, Matter of Chance Productions Blogger, Try Avoidance

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August 21st, 2005, 08:09 PM	#2
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Have you tried turning the sharpness setting on the camera all the way down?

August 21st, 2005, 09:10 PM	#3
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	I did not see such a setting! Where on the menu is it?

August 22nd, 2005, 07:54 PM	#4
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	I have an MX500. In camera mode, exposure set to manual - menu->camera functions->advanced functions->picture adjust. I have it set all the way down. If you set exposure to auto it might ignore this setting but there is a workaround for that if you're interested.

August 22nd, 2005, 08:10 PM	#5
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Hey... how about that; I never saw that feature! So does it do any good? What setting do you use? I simply do not want any unnecessary filtering.

August 22nd, 2005, 08:31 PM	#6
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	I have it all the way down all the time (I also have the colour set a fair way down) - I think it looks heaps better. The camera is effectively applying a filter to sharpen it, so all you are doing is removing that filter. Do a few tests with different levels and play them back on a tv and see what you like.

August 23rd, 2005, 07:53 PM	#8
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	I was trying to remember where I'd seen that info to refer to it, but I couldn't find the page, thanks.