New AG-DVX100A announced - please post all threads here - frame grabs available

Yik Kuen · November 19th, 2003, 03:45 AM

Cine D : emphasizes on Dynamic range
Cine V : more on luminance

Masahiro Kikuchi · November 19th, 2003, 05:37 AM

I just came back from Panasonic booth at InterBEE 2003.
There were three DVX100A as on-hands demo rigs.
One DVX100A equiped Chrosziel mattbox and focus puller.
I asked Panasonic rep and confirmed these things.

- DVX100A will be available Nov. 20 (yes, it's tommorow!) for Japanese market. The rep guy doesn't know about other countries.
- DVX100 is not upgradable (circuit board nor mechanical part).
- DVX100 is already discontinued.
- Accessories which designed for DVX100 may fits on DVX100A since they has same outer dimensions.

Chris Mueller · November 19th, 2003, 06:28 AM

Wow, thats rather soon. I wonder how that translates to American markets. The GS100 isn't avaliable here yet, correct?

Yang Wen · November 19th, 2003, 08:53 AM

What do you guys think? when the DVX100A comes out, sell the DVX100 and upgrade to the A model? Or wait 6 months or so and see if any new stuff comes out of NAB and then sell the DVX? But buy then if something does come out, the value of the DVX might drop. As cool as the A model looks, it just doesn't add enough for an immediate upgrade.

Mike Zorger · November 19th, 2003, 10:17 AM

I just bought my dvx like a month ago. GEeZZ. Is there any real large differences in the 100 and the 100a.????

Yik Kuen · November 19th, 2003, 10:51 AM

I plan to get one (DVX100) next month, but now, I'll just wait for the "A" model.

However, I need more info on the PAL version, should be DVX100AE. Do you guys know when will Pana ship this model?

Bruce A. Christenson · November 19th, 2003, 11:28 AM

Ahh, I just found the English version of the webpage, please ignore :) Thanks all

Frederic Segard · November 19th, 2003, 11:33 AM

I was about to buy my DVX100 a couple of weeks ago when I heard the rumors of a possible second gen DVX100A at https://www.dvxuser.com. I'm glad I waited, and I'm glad to hear Masahiro Kikuchi's Interbee brief report that it indeed exists, and that it will be available soon. For once in my life I'm actually going to get the latest and greatest without fear of obsolescence in the next 6 months.

I hope to hear more Interbee reports about the DVX100A in the next couple of days.

Chris Mueller · November 19th, 2003, 05:10 PM

If they're discontinuing the DVX100, does that mean that the price of the DVX100A will be the same as the previous model was? It'd be a shame to raise the price of their current model...

Ho Chee Woe · November 19th, 2003, 05:17 PM

YES!!! DVX100A is the ONE! so big different from DVX100. I must buy this camera...

Stuart Kupinsky · November 19th, 2003, 05:27 PM

If you look at the pdf diagrams, the new squeeze mode appears to do nothing more than interpolate the usual 16:9 image *before* it is written to tape. It doesn't appear that any resolution advantage is offered by this process, but not much info to run on.

Frederic Segard · November 19th, 2003, 11:39 PM

I'd consider the squeeze mode more a poorman's anamorphic adapter.

I may have heard wrong, but from what I've been told, the stretch done on camera is better then when it's done in post. But in no way yeilds the results of a real anamorphic lens.

Jarred Land · November 19th, 2003, 11:57 PM

depends if it samples the image from a 800+ horizontal pixel range then squeezes it. Obviously if it is just samples the 720 pixels and squeezes it then its pretty lame.

But, remember that the CCD has a whole whack of pixels.

Dan Lahav · November 20th, 2003, 01:27 AM

geez im amazed how many of you are ready to give up your DVX's. Next DVX upgrade im going to make is when it turns HD and does true 16:9...

Jarred Land · November 20th, 2003, 01:47 AM

yes... indeed. Alot of the new features are really for very very experienced operators and D.P's that have alot of lights and alot of equipment to work with and an equal amount of setup time.

The only think of interest to me is the anamorphic mode.. but when the Century optics ana comes out I am 99% confident it will do a much better job.

Oh.. that little rib around the scene dial is pretty damn cool as well.

November 19th, 2003, 05:27 PM	#71
Stuart Kupinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 82	If you look at the pdf diagrams, the new squeeze mode appears to do nothing more than interpolate the usual 16:9 image before it is written to tape. It doesn't appear that any resolution advantage is offered by this process, but not much info to run on. __________________ DVX100A/AT4071a/Vegas/After Effects Dual 2GHz Xeon PC

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November 19th, 2003, 03:45 AM	#61
Yik Kuen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Johor Bahru, Malaysia Posts: 135	Cine D : emphasizes on Dynamic range Cine V : more on luminance

November 19th, 2003, 05:37 AM	#62
Masahiro Kikuchi New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 14	I just came back from Panasonic booth at InterBEE 2003. There were three DVX100A as on-hands demo rigs. One DVX100A equiped Chrosziel mattbox and focus puller. I asked Panasonic rep and confirmed these things. - DVX100A will be available Nov. 20 (yes, it's tommorow!) for Japanese market. The rep guy doesn't know about other countries. - DVX100 is not upgradable (circuit board nor mechanical part). - DVX100 is already discontinued. - Accessories which designed for DVX100 may fits on DVX100A since they has same outer dimensions.

November 19th, 2003, 06:28 AM	#63
Chris Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 49	Wow, thats rather soon. I wonder how that translates to American markets. The GS100 isn't avaliable here yet, correct?

November 19th, 2003, 08:53 AM	#64
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	What do you guys think? when the DVX100A comes out, sell the DVX100 and upgrade to the A model? Or wait 6 months or so and see if any new stuff comes out of NAB and then sell the DVX? But buy then if something does come out, the value of the DVX might drop. As cool as the A model looks, it just doesn't add enough for an immediate upgrade.

November 19th, 2003, 10:17 AM	#65
Mike Zorger Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norther VA Posts: 163	I just bought my dvx like a month ago. GEeZZ. Is there any real large differences in the 100 and the 100a.????

November 19th, 2003, 10:51 AM	#66
Yik Kuen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Johor Bahru, Malaysia Posts: 135	I plan to get one (DVX100) next month, but now, I'll just wait for the "A" model. However, I need more info on the PAL version, should be DVX100AE. Do you guys know when will Pana ship this model?

November 19th, 2003, 11:28 AM	#67
Bruce A. Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Forest Grove, OR Posts: 122	Ahh, I just found the English version of the webpage, please ignore :) Thanks all

November 19th, 2003, 11:33 AM	#68
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	I was about to buy my DVX100 a couple of weeks ago when I heard the rumors of a possible second gen DVX100A at https://www.dvxuser.com. I'm glad I waited, and I'm glad to hear Masahiro Kikuchi's Interbee brief report that it indeed exists, and that it will be available soon. For once in my life I'm actually going to get the latest and greatest without fear of obsolescence in the next 6 months. I hope to hear more Interbee reports about the DVX100A in the next couple of days.

November 19th, 2003, 05:10 PM	#69
Chris Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 49	If they're discontinuing the DVX100, does that mean that the price of the DVX100A will be the same as the previous model was? It'd be a shame to raise the price of their current model...

November 19th, 2003, 05:17 PM	#70
Ho Chee Woe New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 12	YES!!! DVX100A is the ONE! so big different from DVX100. I must buy this camera...

November 19th, 2003, 11:39 PM	#72
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	I'd consider the squeeze mode more a poorman's anamorphic adapter. I may have heard wrong, but from what I've been told, the stretch done on camera is better then when it's done in post. But in no way yeilds the results of a real anamorphic lens.

November 19th, 2003, 11:57 PM	#73
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	depends if it samples the image from a 800+ horizontal pixel range then squeezes it. Obviously if it is just samples the 720 pixels and squeezes it then its pretty lame. But, remember that the CCD has a whole whack of pixels.

November 20th, 2003, 01:27 AM	#74
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	geez im amazed how many of you are ready to give up your DVX's. Next DVX upgrade im going to make is when it turns HD and does true 16:9...

November 20th, 2003, 01:47 AM	#75
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	yes... indeed. Alot of the new features are really for very very experienced operators and D.P's that have alot of lights and alot of equipment to work with and an equal amount of setup time. The only think of interest to me is the anamorphic mode.. but when the Century optics ana comes out I am 99% confident it will do a much better job. Oh.. that little rib around the scene dial is pretty damn cool as well.