FS-100 v2 at DVinfo.net

Dennis Davidoff · November 14th, 2006, 02:28 AM

Does this firmware update allow 24pn as well as slow motion? Did anyone have any experience with it yet? All it says in the read me file is "Improvements for 24P support" which doesn't really say alot...

Gene Crucean · November 14th, 2006, 11:18 AM

Interested also.

Dick Campbell · November 14th, 2006, 03:16 PM

Its impossible for FS to use 24pn, or any other native mode, because HVX does not send native modes to Firewire.

Barry Green · November 14th, 2006, 03:30 PM

Version 2 does not support 24pN "simulation", but version 3 will.

The HVX does not output any data from the FW port when in 24pN mode, but the FS-100 v3 will record only the "native frames" from the firewire stream, discarding all the other frames. So the net effect is the same as if you'd shot in 24pN. DV Rack HD and EDIUS and FCP all do the same thing, and with V3 of the software FS-100 will also offer this capability.

Dennis Davidoff · November 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM

So when does the V3 come out? Any news on that? I thought V2 just came out.

Gene Crucean · November 15th, 2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Green

but the FS-100 v3 will record only the "native frames" from the firewire stream, discarding all the other frames. So the net effect is the same as if you'd shot in 24pN.

Not really. The reason I want to be able to record in pN is so I can overcrank. What you just described won't let me do that.

Barry Green · November 15th, 2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene Crucean

Not really. The reason I want to be able to record in pN is so I can overcrank. What you just described won't let me do that.

Yes it will! That's exactly what it will allow.

But you don't need to wait for that, you can overcrank with the existing FS-100; you just need to strip out the duplicate frames using Apple's FRC.

Gene Crucean · November 15th, 2006, 10:13 AM

Hmm. I was under the impression that you can't even set the camera to overcrank unless you were in pN mode. So basically you're saying that you can overcrank in regular p mode and the fs-100 will record it?

If this is the case, say no more because I'll have my checkbook out in 5sec to finally buy one of these. This has been the killing point for me for a long time.

Thanks for the clarification too btw.

Barry Green · November 15th, 2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene Crucean

Hmm. I was under the impression that you can't even set the camera to overcrank unless you were in pN mode. So basically you're saying that you can overcrank in regular p mode and the fs-100 will record it?

Yep.

The only thing is, you won't see the slow-mo effect upon playback, you have to process the footage through the FRC. Which is the exact same thing you'd have to do if you shot VariCam too.

Daniel Gervais · November 17th, 2006, 07:47 AM

So if you want to over or undercrank, FS-100 will not receive through FW from the HVX, native frames.Unless FRC???? What's FRC??

Dee Joslin · November 18th, 2006, 06:27 AM

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November 14th, 2006, 02:28 AM	#1
Dennis Davidoff New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 23	FS-100 v2 Does this firmware update allow 24pn as well as slow motion? Did anyone have any experience with it yet? All it says in the read me file is "Improvements for 24P support" which doesn't really say alot...

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Daniel Gervais Tourist Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2	What's FRC??? So if you want to over or undercrank, FS-100 will not receive through FW from the HVX, native frames.Unless FRC???? What's FRC??

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November 14th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#2
Gene Crucean Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 295	Interested also.

November 14th, 2006, 03:16 PM	#3
Dick Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 117	Its impossible for FS to use 24pn, or any other native mode, because HVX does not send native modes to Firewire.

November 14th, 2006, 03:30 PM	#4
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Version 2 does not support 24pN "simulation", but version 3 will. The HVX does not output any data from the FW port when in 24pN mode, but the FS-100 v3 will record only the "native frames" from the firewire stream, discarding all the other frames. So the net effect is the same as if you'd shot in 24pN. DV Rack HD and EDIUS and FCP all do the same thing, and with V3 of the software FS-100 will also offer this capability.

November 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM	#5
Dennis Davidoff New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 23	So when does the V3 come out? Any news on that? I thought V2 just came out.

November 15th, 2006, 10:13 AM	#8
Gene Crucean Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 295	Hmm. I was under the impression that you can't even set the camera to overcrank unless you were in pN mode. So basically you're saying that you can overcrank in regular p mode and the fs-100 will record it? If this is the case, say no more because I'll have my checkbook out in 5sec to finally buy one of these. This has been the killing point for me for a long time. Thanks for the clarification too btw.