Buying from DVinfo members at DVinfo.net

Michael Best · May 26th, 2004, 10:01 AM

I just wanted to make a general comment that I just recently purchased two cameras from members of this forum. I am absolutely impressed. I was concerned about undocumented transactions but you guys are very professional.

I'll look here for anything before going to ebay.

Thanks!

Imran Zaidi · May 26th, 2004, 10:05 AM

I myself have had many great transactions through this forum. Part of the reason is definitely that we all use our real names here, and that generates an environment of professionalism, honesty and camaraderie. We can thank Chris Hurd for that! (And of course, the whole community for being on the up-and-up).

Ken Tanaka · May 27th, 2004, 01:17 AM

It's very interesting, actually. We've never tried to determine how much gear has been sold through here but, as you can see, the total must be impressive. I, myself, have sold two cameras and several accessories here with no hitches.

To my knowledge there have only been two incidents. Both turned out to be buyer/seller misunderstandings and were resolved to mutual satisfaction. (We do not / cannot intervene in any transactions.)

As Imran indicated, the fact that DVinfo is based on openness makes a difference. It feels more like a community than an anonymous electronic bulletin board. Also, folks here know what they're buying and selling.

Glen Elliott · May 27th, 2004, 08:36 AM

Yeah this forum has been very helpfull to me as a seller as well. In the past 6 months I've sold my DVX100, GL-1, Canon WA lens, Canon VL-TLi video light, software, etc etc...all in completly smooth transactions.
It's nice to be able to sell here beings I've never used Ebay and people would be reluctant to buy expensive gear from someone with NO feedback record. I've definitly put some milage on this site which definitly helps in the customer feeling comfortable with large sales.
Thanks to all who are responsible for the creation and maintinance of this fourm including all moderators!

Mike Cavanaugh · May 27th, 2004, 08:40 AM

As one of the transactions Imran mentioned, I was very nervous when considering making a large investment (for me at least) with a seller and product sight unseen. The steps Imran & I took (multiple e-mails, a couple of phone conversations) and continious open communication (mailed check today - recieved check today - camera mailed - camera recieved etc.) made the process enjoyable and productive.

That said, don't take the fact that people are on this forum as a gold standard for integrity. Caution should be exercised with all transactions, wheter the folks are forum members or not. Not everyone here or elsewhere are as honest as we would like to believe.

Joe Cirino · May 27th, 2004, 10:27 AM

I think success is partly due to maturity of the members of this forum.

Imran Zaidi · May 27th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Oh and also the references to cowoby phrase-ology (i.e., Wranglers, etc.).

The idea of being wrassled to the ground and hog-tied keeps ne'er-do-wells at bay...

Michael Wisniewski · May 27th, 2004, 01:17 PM

I've also had a good experiences both buying and selling on DV Info.

Perhaps we could change the titles from regular crew to "little doggies" ...

Mark Monciardini · May 27th, 2004, 09:35 PM

Lets also keep in mind that anyone can join this forum and pretend to have lets say "a $3000 camera" and just say "send me the money and it's yours" so still be very carful.

Make sure to get their phone number, or even a copy of their drivers licenece if you are really unsure about somthing.

Good luck!

Glen Elliott · May 27th, 2004, 10:47 PM

That's why you don't buy from newbies.

Dylan Couper · May 27th, 2004, 11:20 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Imran Zaidi : Oh and also the references to cowoby phrase-ology (i.e., Wranglers, etc.).

The idea of being wrassled to the ground and hog-tied keeps ne'er-do-wells at bay... -->>>

I always felt it was the branding with a red hot iron that was the big deterrent.

Robbie Smolinsky · May 28th, 2004, 05:42 AM

What really sets these forums apart from any other is the community of people here. I have never found another board online quite like this one, its an oasis on the web. I have bought and sold cameras and accessories here, and I have never run into a problem of any kind and have always been able to turn here for help. So thanks all, its the people that read/post/reply to threads like this that make DVInfoNet a great resource!

Bob Safay · May 28th, 2004, 05:06 PM

I agree. I log on every day to see what you all are up to. It is like comming home to read email from friends. As for this thread, I have purchased the 14x from this forum and never, never had a problem. I guess you can say that we would be to ashamed to rip each other off. Bob

JM Underwood · August 30th, 2004, 03:57 AM

It's good to hear you guys reporting such good experiences with buying/selling here.

<<<-- Originally posted by Mike Cavanaugh : That said, don't take the fact that people are on this forum as a gold standard for integrity. Caution should be exercised with all transactions, wheter the folks are forum members or not. Not everyone here or elsewhere are as honest as we would like to believe. -->>>

I am new here, and was somewhat put off by my first attempt to buy from a forum member. Looking back now, perhaps I over-reacted, and posted some feedback that I shouldn't have while I was still upset by the emails from the forum member. But every email I received from him, after the first, was very offensive. He was very defensive about all my questions, made totally wrong statements about paying through PayPal, trying to pressure me into paying by money order.

Perhaps he didn't mean to, but to me, these were all the signs of someone who is trying to rip you off, even though he has been a member here for about 10 months.

So, it's good to know that most of the time sales go well here. But like Mike suggests, it's best to always proceed with reasonable caution. The very best con artists work by first becoming well-known and well-liked by the "in-crowd" they are trying to con.

Let's hope that seldom, if ever, happens here.

Best Regards.

Nick Hiltgen · August 30th, 2004, 09:12 AM

Maybe not regular crew but new boot to "little doggies" if I had to work up to little dogge I would probably be on 2-pop.com still... (not that that's a good or bad site just the first one I could think of... )

May 26th, 2004, 10:01 AM	#1
Michael Best Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oceanside Harbor, CA Posts: 446	Buying from DVinfo members I just wanted to make a general comment that I just recently purchased two cameras from members of this forum. I am absolutely impressed. I was concerned about undocumented transactions but you guys are very professional. I'll look here for anything before going to ebay. Thanks!

May 27th, 2004, 01:17 AM	#3
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	It's very interesting, actually. We've never tried to determine how much gear has been sold through here but, as you can see, the total must be impressive. I, myself, have sold two cameras and several accessories here with no hitches. To my knowledge there have only been two incidents. Both turned out to be buyer/seller misunderstandings and were resolved to mutual satisfaction. (We do not / cannot intervene in any transactions.) As Imran indicated, the fact that DVinfo is based on openness makes a difference. It feels more like a community than an anonymous electronic bulletin board. Also, folks here know what they're buying and selling. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 27th, 2004, 09:35 PM	#9
Mark Monciardini Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 158	Lets also keep in mind that anyone can join this forum and pretend to have lets say "a $3000 camera" and just say "send me the money and it's yours" so still be very carful. Make sure to get their phone number, or even a copy of their drivers licenece if you are really unsure about somthing. Good luck! __________________ Best Regards, Mark T. Monciardini Riverlight Studios www.riverlightstudios.com DVX100/Final Cut Pro 4/Mac G5 Dual 1.8

May 27th, 2004, 11:20 PM	#11
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Imran Zaidi : Oh and also the references to cowoby phrase-ology (i.e., Wranglers, etc.). The idea of being wrassled to the ground and hog-tied keeps ne'er-do-wells at bay... -->>> I always felt it was the branding with a red hot iron that was the big deterrent. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 26th, 2004, 10:05 AM	#2
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	I myself have had many great transactions through this forum. Part of the reason is definitely that we all use our real names here, and that generates an environment of professionalism, honesty and camaraderie. We can thank Chris Hurd for that! (And of course, the whole community for being on the up-and-up).

May 27th, 2004, 08:36 AM	#4
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Yeah this forum has been very helpfull to me as a seller as well. In the past 6 months I've sold my DVX100, GL-1, Canon WA lens, Canon VL-TLi video light, software, etc etc...all in completly smooth transactions. It's nice to be able to sell here beings I've never used Ebay and people would be reluctant to buy expensive gear from someone with NO feedback record. I've definitly put some milage on this site which definitly helps in the customer feeling comfortable with large sales. Thanks to all who are responsible for the creation and maintinance of this fourm including all moderators!

May 27th, 2004, 08:40 AM	#5
Mike Cavanaugh Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Albany NY Posts: 311	As one of the transactions Imran mentioned, I was very nervous when considering making a large investment (for me at least) with a seller and product sight unseen. The steps Imran & I took (multiple e-mails, a couple of phone conversations) and continious open communication (mailed check today - recieved check today - camera mailed - camera recieved etc.) made the process enjoyable and productive. That said, don't take the fact that people are on this forum as a gold standard for integrity. Caution should be exercised with all transactions, wheter the folks are forum members or not. Not everyone here or elsewhere are as honest as we would like to believe.

May 27th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#6
Joe Cirino Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Posts: 101	I think success is partly due to maturity of the members of this forum.

May 27th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#7
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Oh and also the references to cowoby phrase-ology (i.e., Wranglers, etc.). The idea of being wrassled to the ground and hog-tied keeps ne'er-do-wells at bay...

May 27th, 2004, 01:17 PM	#8
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	I've also had a good experiences both buying and selling on DV Info. Perhaps we could change the titles from regular crew to "little doggies" ...

May 27th, 2004, 10:47 PM	#10
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	That's why you don't buy from newbies.

May 28th, 2004, 05:42 AM	#12
Robbie Smolinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 142	What really sets these forums apart from any other is the community of people here. I have never found another board online quite like this one, its an oasis on the web. I have bought and sold cameras and accessories here, and I have never run into a problem of any kind and have always been able to turn here for help. So thanks all, its the people that read/post/reply to threads like this that make DVInfoNet a great resource!

May 28th, 2004, 05:06 PM	#13
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,557	I agree. I log on every day to see what you all are up to. It is like comming home to read email from friends. As for this thread, I have purchased the 14x from this forum and never, never had a problem. I guess you can say that we would be to ashamed to rip each other off. Bob

August 30th, 2004, 03:57 AM	#14
JM Underwood Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX (Clear Lake area) Posts: 42	It's good to hear you guys reporting such good experiences with buying/selling here. <<<-- Originally posted by Mike Cavanaugh : That said, don't take the fact that people are on this forum as a gold standard for integrity. Caution should be exercised with all transactions, wheter the folks are forum members or not. Not everyone here or elsewhere are as honest as we would like to believe. -->>> I am new here, and was somewhat put off by my first attempt to buy from a forum member. Looking back now, perhaps I over-reacted, and posted some feedback that I shouldn't have while I was still upset by the emails from the forum member. But every email I received from him, after the first, was very offensive. He was very defensive about all my questions, made totally wrong statements about paying through PayPal, trying to pressure me into paying by money order. Perhaps he didn't mean to, but to me, these were all the signs of someone who is trying to rip you off, even though he has been a member here for about 10 months. So, it's good to know that most of the time sales go well here. But like Mike suggests, it's best to always proceed with reasonable caution. The very best con artists work by first becoming well-known and well-liked by the "in-crowd" they are trying to con. Let's hope that seldom, if ever, happens here. Best Regards.

August 30th, 2004, 09:12 AM	#15
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Maybe not regular crew but new boot to "little doggies" if I had to work up to little dogge I would probably be on 2-pop.com still... (not that that's a good or bad site just the first one I could think of... )