Seems as if the "End User" has the agreement- now if the set is sold to another person- doesn't that make them the "End User" -it doesn't specify the "End User" has to be the individual that purchased the original set... ?

<< Technically one could say the set is a gift with a donation of $150 to the Steve Nunez Fund- see how silly these legalities are?? Tax exempt and all- you'd have to be a commercial lawyer to really sort all the legalities the companies are putting into everyday items we now purchase- honestly I hate the way America is shifting into this "mentality".... they're an original set ....I could see if I were selling copies of the stuff, but to simply sell a used set and get all this response is a bit much...what has happened to the good ole' USA >>

I'm just about ready to pull the plug on this.....it's just a set of CD's in original packaging- they're not copies- they're 100% original....I can't believe all the technical legalities being cited as a result of a casual sale to other DV enthusiasts.......I thought they'd make a perfect addition to anyone making their own home dv projects, that's all!

( sad and somewhat comical- in a non-funny way )

Steve, the posting was worth it just for this thread alone. Good info brought up here.


Maybe whoever buys them from you can just tag your name onto the production as Associate Producer, and that would cover the music. :)

Steve,

This thread and all the fuss is not about you and your deal so much as the state of copyright law confusion in regards to small videographers. I think this is actually the simplest issue I have seen in a while regarding copyrights. But I have been curious for a while as to whether resales were legal. Many RF companies do not post their license terms on-line, making it hard to figure out if a used set would be legal to use or not. (Please note that I contacted you privately about this before this discussion got started, and did not join the debate until someone else brought the subject up).

From the artist point of view, lets say you buy a library, use it for one project and sell it. Then someone else does the same thing. Pretty soon, you could have dozens of projects out there, all using one little slice of the library for their project, and the artist has to go back to work at Walmart because he only got paid for one project.

The DigitalJuice method of unlimited licensing is a boon to all of us, versus models like Freeplay, where you have to buy a license for every single project, and pay by minute of use and number of disks. $400 for 28 CD's of RF music is unbelieveable IMHO. I could pay $400 for one fully-licensed song. If we abuse the people who are more than generous with their creations , they will vanish and Free-play type licenses will be our only choice. We all know that BMI and ASCAP would just as soon put us out of business as deal with us.

You got a raw deal because you bought these CD's in good faith, but your buddy screwed you if you had used this music in a big project and gotten busted. Since you have no license agreement with DJ, you can't violate it by selling the discs now. Maybe you should treat it like a bad used car, and not sell it to a friend (we ARE still your friends, right?). :) Of course, if you truly believe that the next owner will have a royalty-free license, sell it that way. Or just make it available on eBay, and let people make their own decision. Maybe you can donate to a school for educational purposes (with no license) and take a tax deduction. (Everyone please save the tax advice!!). If I wanted music for home projects, I might consider buying it. As I said, you have no license to violate IMHO.

From my perspective, enlightened self-interest makes me honor whatever terms the artist chooses put on his work. If I don't like it, I don't buy it. I hope everyone will treat my work (software and video) equally well.

FWIW, I think I am going to buy the fullly-licensed version of this product as soon as I have a need for new music, now that it has come to my attention. It really is a very nice library, and their terms are completely acceptable to me.

Sorry for the long rant/post.

Good points for the artists...I don't want to cheat them of their fair pay.

I never took any of the comments personally or as being directed towards me......I'm just sore at what the "legal" system has done to the USA.

Years ago the USA had some of the best motorcycle racers in the world in competition...many of them citing their "young age riding" as the basis of their good performances.....but with todays legalities in the US- it's illegal for a young kid to ride a pocketbike in an empty parking lot because the land owner may get sued if he/she got hurt.....so we have no rising stars.....the people of the USA and it's law setup have abused the system to the point that we can't do much without a permit......believe it or not, you can't legally throw a frisbie or baseball in any NYC Park, it's a park violation......it's just ridiculous.....I was told to leave a local park because I had a tripod and "tripods" aren't allowed in a park without a valid permit.......

...so other countries where law suits actually had to make sense ( a kid's parents can't sue if they get hurt on a minibike on a lot because the kid fell of his own actions) have all the rising stars.....Japan, Italy etc are ruling the m/c racing scene because their youth get to riding/racing on lots and hone their skills.....

.......sorry for this rant, it's just really frustrating to see what has happened to America on many fronts.....we're becoming a hated country everywhere and when the citizens themselves feel something is wrong- we're in trouble!

Consider the set "Not for Sale"......I'll keep them as a reminder of this thread and it's issues.

Thanks to all who tried to help, good day all.

trade for lens
 

have D-100 pkg to trade for long lens,canon,sigma,tamron for the ef adapter.pkg has 3 nikor and 1 sigma lens and accessories.

I can go lower...is anyone interested?

email me Cubanb13@aol.com

I can go lower...is anyone interested?

Email me Cubanb13@aol.com

the 210 had been sold , all the other still waiting for new home

Item Sold
 

Item Sold...

i'll pay shipping 3 day priority mail

torrey c. harris

still got the trv 27 if so call me at

1-225-315-6677

torrey

You know my pain..DAMNIT.. :(

According to that site, "License is NON Transferable" (bottom of the page)

I called the company and they agreed to make an exeption when I explained what happened.

Surround Sound System FS
 

I have upgraded my Home Theatre. Therefore I would like to sell the slightly used one.

It is a Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble IV 5.1 system powered by a JVC reciever.

This outfit was $499 new. Would take $250 OBO. It is just taking up space in the back room .

This thing sounds awesome and takes up very little space. The speakers are small cubes that have an incredible dynamic range.

Kevin
Foristal Media Tulsa, OK

trade for lens
 

item removed to ebay.

i feel for you

Would you sell the ,ens by itself?
Bruce Yarock

no,

i want to sell as a package

Sound System???
 

Hi

Your item basically sounds like what I need.
BUT! Would you please list what is included as I am, not familiar with the "system" ?

Thanks

Martin

FS: Gary Kleiner's Vegas Video Training DVDs (2 dics)
 

Selling my Vegas Training DVDs by Gary Kleiner. Very informative! 2 DVDs (3 hours long). I paid 48.50 +tax for it. I will sell it for 29.95 + shipping. Dvds are in brand new condition.


Sid

Panasonic DVX100a For Sale
 

I am selling my Panasonic DVX100a.

It has no extras just everything that came with it standard (remote, strap, battery, battery charger so on) and it still has one year left under warranty - I bought it at BHPhoto NYC in person

The camera is 11 mos old and has 74 hrs logged usage and is in perfect shape

If you would like to make an offer:
http://www.bakermedia.com/learn/sendmessage.php

Are these for 4.0 or 5.0 ?

Why are you selling it?

It's toomuch camera for me - I'm an artist with software - I like to take good footage and make it look cool, I'm not nor will I ever be a camera man, dp or anything like that - Cameras and lights should be done by people that love it and I love software - I gave it a shot but I think any 3 chip camera would suffice for me -

Item Sold

DVX100 + VZ-DVX100 for sale
 

For sale:
Panasonic DVX100(not A), 38 drum hours. All original accessories included, plus a VZ-DVX100 zoom controller new in the box.

If you want pictures or test footage I'll be happy to take them.
Would like $2300 but make me an offer. Need to sell asap.

Mike, I thought you were going with a HDV cam?

<<<-- Originally posted by Tommy Haupfear : Mike, I thought you were going with a HDV cam? -->>>

I am when the next generation comes out - not now - with only the sony and jvc I dont see it as a wise move quite yet for the prosumer - I actually just want this:

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&itemId=70622&catGroupId=17171&modelNo=PV-GS400&surfModel=PV-GS400

for the time being

Looking for a Sony VX1000
 

Would anyone happen to have one they are willing to sell? Or is ebay my only option?

Thanks,
-Stephen

still for sale?

Vince

VX 1000
 

Hi Stephen

I have a VX1000 package to sell. I put it up on this site on Nov 7. I have had several expressions of interest but as of the moment nothing has been finalised. I can send you pictures to go along with the description. You can find the original offer and post a reply there, or e-mail to me.

Thanks
Martin

Anybody selling Avid Xpress Pro & Mojo?
 

NOT academic, 15-1 compression version.
REAL THING?
Or is anybody selling edit system with Xpress DV or Pro already on system?
Thanks

Almost NEw GL2
 

I got a GL2 I'm hoping to sale. I have had it only long enough to learn how to use it--just over a month. I have filmed 60 minutes worth of video on it in my apartment. It comes with a transferable 4-year mack warranty, the canon wide angle lens, a professional tripod, and everything else. I cashed in the $250 warranty already. I am going to try and sell it on this site or maybe ebay. It doesn't even have a scratch and is a wonderful camera. It hurts me to sell it but just decided to go to Ecuador. I will soon post it on this site.

Take care,
Brad

You don't need mojo to capture 15:1. Just select 15:1 in the resolution box when you capture.

Are you looking for a used unit? Otherwise, several turnkey companies sell preconfigured editing stations. DVLine.com is a good place to start.

how much would you be willing to sell it for?

Does this include the reel-stream.com mod?

GL2, WD-58H, 4 yr warranty, tripod
 

Almost new GL2, WD-58H, 4 yr warranty, tripod
Price: $2090

Canon GL2 mini-DV
RepairTech transferable 4 Year extended warranty
Canon WD-58H .7x Wide-converter for GL2
Velbon SEF-3 Tripod with PH-22 Head

The camera was bought August 18, 2004 and used for less than one tape filmed in my house. The camera has no scratches or scuffs marks and comes with original box, manual, and all accessories in perfect condition, and receipts. The Canon WD-58H comes with hood, cap, and was bought in September. The warranty is transferable and good for 3 years and 8 more months. The tripod is used but of excellent quality, sturdy and smooth.

I am going to move to a remote part of Ecuador and am choosing to focus on digital photography and that is why I am selling the GL2. Pictures of the equipment can be forwarded to anyone interested in purchasing. I would be very willing to make the transaction through any means the purchaser thought safe and prudent. I live in Albuquerque, NM. bradleydehaan@yahoo.com

Just found out that this is the PZ auto version (serial 67XXXX). One sold on ebay for $2425...? Anyone familiar with these?