Check out my music video at DVinfo.net

Mike Meyerson · September 10th, 2003, 04:11 PM

ON IFILM...

http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2474316

shot with a canon xl-1

let me know what you think

Charles King · September 10th, 2003, 04:42 PM

Great job Mike. What procedure did you use to get the look? Love the lighting effects.

Mike Meyerson · September 10th, 2003, 07:14 PM

There's no effects what so ever. It's all just lighting. It was all shot in a studio and we had a really great DP.

Alex Knappenberger · September 10th, 2003, 07:24 PM

Good stuff, I liked it. The lighting was great.

I wish the song was recorded/mixed better though.

Mike Meyerson · September 10th, 2003, 08:50 PM

The audio quality comes down a bit when it was encoded for the web. It sounds much better on the master tape.

oh well...glad you liked it though.

Alex Knappenberger · September 10th, 2003, 09:13 PM

Yeah, I understand that, sorry if I offended you or anything...

The actual video was awesome though, great camera work, editing, lighting....etc, etc.

What did it take to build that set? I am asking because I need to build a set for mainly my public access show, and maybe some for some other videos, and I don't really know what the best material would be to do it extra cheap, heh, i'm talking cardboard boxes here.

John Locke · September 10th, 2003, 09:37 PM

Nice work, Mike. Very well shot. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you come up with in the near future.

Imran Zaidi · September 10th, 2003, 10:05 PM

Great work! Unique set, lit well and in an intriguing fashion, and great pacing with the editing. Oh, and your model looked like Pat Benatar (not that that has anything to do with anything).

Mark Monciardini · September 11th, 2003, 12:57 AM

Hey cool set. Not easy to do a whole video in the same room. The XL1s is a great camera, it looks like it worked out great in the video.

I guess the only criticism I would comment is I think the strobe light part went on a little long, kinda took me back to the 80's. I like how you got mostly parts of the singer, since he is the most important to the fan.

Again, cool set. I also like the window idea and the women singing the chorus on the song.

thanks for sharing!

Mike Meyerson · September 11th, 2003, 08:04 AM

RE: Alex...

NO you didn't offend me. (it's not my band anyway) If I was that easily offended, i'd be in a different business.

As for the set, we had flats (pre-fabbed set walls, most studios have them), so the only hard part was dressing the walls to give it that "look". That's why we hired a set designer :). It took about a day to built and prep. We only had one room. For the girls shots, we just reversed the set. We used red because DV picks up red very well.

RE: Mark...

The strobe part was kind of taylored to the music. This is another part that kind of lost some affectiveness on the web. I think with the frame rate used, some of the strobes are lost. There's more black spaces. I agree that it's alittle 80's...but it sure was fun the edit. (and I grew up in the 80's)

John Locke · September 11th, 2003, 08:18 AM

Just to give a different opinion, I didn't think the strobe effect went on too long and really liked that part of the video...especially how it kicks in with the music.

Victor Panero · September 13th, 2003, 09:50 AM

Echoing others, the lighting was fresh and provocative (as well as the strobing), effective fog and diffusion. I have an xl1 that I've only used for docs up until now. Encouraging to see how it handled your setups.

"There's no effects what so ever. It's all just lighting." MM

Most of the "fx" where done in camera (w/lighting)!?

To me that just emphasizes the attention DV creatives need to give to proper lighting--I being one of them who only recently has begun to study and enjoy the Photon Mgmt. forum.

Mike Meyerson · September 13th, 2003, 12:45 PM

Thanks, but I can't really take credit for the lighting (I produced and edited).

We shot on frame mode with the shutter speed at 60.

Thanks for all the feedback.

MIKE

Peter Richardson · October 2nd, 2003, 05:05 PM

Hey Mike--The video looks great. I could really use a producer like you out here in Oregon--gearing up to shoot my first music video here in a couple weeks. To that end, how did you achieve sync in post? I'm shooting with a DVX100 and will either be editing on FCP or Avid Xpress Pro. What exactly is the process for syncing up, besides having some form of playback on set? Thanks and, again, nice work!

Peter

Mike Meyerson · October 2nd, 2003, 05:25 PM

Peter...

Thanks. If I was anywhere near oregon, I'd love to help ya.
As far as sync, if the band is pretty tight, it's not that hard. On set, have a LOUD stereo to playback on, have the band play along with the CD. When you edit, just make sure the drums are in sync and everything will fall into place. Just watch every clip for sync, you may need to tweak here and there.

I edited on Xpress DV, went pretty smooth.

also,
Check out my short...
http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2474315

September 10th, 2003, 04:11 PM	#1
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	Check out my music video ON IFILM... http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2474316 shot with a canon xl-1 let me know what you think

September 10th, 2003, 04:42 PM	#2
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	Great job Mike. What procedure did you use to get the look? Love the lighting effects. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 10th, 2003, 09:37 PM	#7
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Nice work, Mike. Very well shot. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you come up with in the near future. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

September 11th, 2003, 12:57 AM	#9
Mark Monciardini Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 158	Hey cool set. Not easy to do a whole video in the same room. The XL1s is a great camera, it looks like it worked out great in the video. I guess the only criticism I would comment is I think the strobe light part went on a little long, kinda took me back to the 80's. I like how you got mostly parts of the singer, since he is the most important to the fan. Again, cool set. I also like the window idea and the women singing the chorus on the song. thanks for sharing! __________________ Best Regards, Mark T. Monciardini Riverlight Studios www.riverlightstudios.com DVX100/Final Cut Pro 4/Mac G5 Dual 1.8

September 11th, 2003, 08:18 AM	#11
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Just to give a different opinion, I didn't think the strobe effect went on too long and really liked that part of the video...especially how it kicks in with the music. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

September 10th, 2003, 07:14 PM	#3
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	There's no effects what so ever. It's all just lighting. It was all shot in a studio and we had a really great DP.

September 10th, 2003, 07:24 PM	#4
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Good stuff, I liked it. The lighting was great. I wish the song was recorded/mixed better though.

September 10th, 2003, 08:50 PM	#5
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	The audio quality comes down a bit when it was encoded for the web. It sounds much better on the master tape. oh well...glad you liked it though.

September 10th, 2003, 09:13 PM	#6
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Yeah, I understand that, sorry if I offended you or anything... The actual video was awesome though, great camera work, editing, lighting....etc, etc. What did it take to build that set? I am asking because I need to build a set for mainly my public access show, and maybe some for some other videos, and I don't really know what the best material would be to do it extra cheap, heh, i'm talking cardboard boxes here.

September 10th, 2003, 10:05 PM	#8
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Great work! Unique set, lit well and in an intriguing fashion, and great pacing with the editing. Oh, and your model looked like Pat Benatar (not that that has anything to do with anything).

September 11th, 2003, 08:04 AM	#10
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	RE: Alex... NO you didn't offend me. (it's not my band anyway) If I was that easily offended, i'd be in a different business. As for the set, we had flats (pre-fabbed set walls, most studios have them), so the only hard part was dressing the walls to give it that "look". That's why we hired a set designer :). It took about a day to built and prep. We only had one room. For the girls shots, we just reversed the set. We used red because DV picks up red very well. RE: Mark... The strobe part was kind of taylored to the music. This is another part that kind of lost some affectiveness on the web. I think with the frame rate used, some of the strobes are lost. There's more black spaces. I agree that it's alittle 80's...but it sure was fun the edit. (and I grew up in the 80's)

September 13th, 2003, 09:50 AM	#12
Victor Panero Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Miyazaki, Japan-----> Orange County Posts: 25	Echoing others, the lighting was fresh and provocative (as well as the strobing), effective fog and diffusion. I have an xl1 that I've only used for docs up until now. Encouraging to see how it handled your setups. "There's no effects what so ever. It's all just lighting." MM Most of the "fx" where done in camera (w/lighting)!? To me that just emphasizes the attention DV creatives need to give to proper lighting--I being one of them who only recently has begun to study and enjoy the Photon Mgmt. forum. __________________ "N a k i n a s a i , W a r a i n a s a i..." -Kina Shoukichi, HANA

September 13th, 2003, 12:45 PM	#13
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	Thanks, but I can't really take credit for the lighting (I produced and edited). We shot on frame mode with the shutter speed at 60. Thanks for all the feedback. MIKE

October 2nd, 2003, 05:05 PM	#14
Peter Richardson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 608	Hey Mike--The video looks great. I could really use a producer like you out here in Oregon--gearing up to shoot my first music video here in a couple weeks. To that end, how did you achieve sync in post? I'm shooting with a DVX100 and will either be editing on FCP or Avid Xpress Pro. What exactly is the process for syncing up, besides having some form of playback on set? Thanks and, again, nice work! Peter

October 2nd, 2003, 05:25 PM	#15
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	Peter... Thanks. If I was anywhere near oregon, I'd love to help ya. As far as sync, if the band is pretty tight, it's not that hard. On set, have a LOUD stereo to playback on, have the band play along with the CD. When you edit, just make sure the drums are in sync and everything will fall into place. Just watch every clip for sync, you may need to tweak here and there. I edited on Xpress DV, went pretty smooth. also, Check out my short... http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2474315