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May 27th, 2014, 10:28 AM | #16 | |
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The voice over is one aspect of the video we've actually gotten the most critiques on. We're actually working right now on trying to see if we can get a voice actor to lend his skills, as the guy in the video right now is a friend and doesn't have a lot of VO experience. The tough thing is that the project was unpaid (our travel expenses were covered, but we didn't get paid for anything), so all extra music, VO, copywriting, etc. has been pro-bono from people we know. |
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I know that over the past four or five years, especially here in the US a lot of people are having to reinvent themselves. I can't tell you the number of people I've run across who were shooting architectural/property/real estate videos with Red's and Canon C300's for a couple hundred dollars.. There was real value in your video and you need to sell it. Sorry, I don't want to sound preachy, maybe there was a lot of alcohol and sex and it was the best time of your life, but you have to be able to point out the value of your work and get them to pay for if, even if its only $500. Having said that if you go back to shoot more and you need a volunteer, count me in : ) |
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May 27th, 2014, 05:05 PM | #18 |
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Re: "The New" -- Travel inspiration shot on the island of Dominica
Thanks for sharing Josh. I enjoyed the piece and think it had a lot of emotion.
Too bad you were in the position of being a no-pay content producer. This is all too often the situation these days. We here like expensive cameras, mics and lenses but finding folks to pay us to use them is so very often an afterthought...from the client's end. In my opinion, the only area for improvement would be more planning to get a more cohesive story and shot list. While the raw emotion is there, the images seem kind of thrown together a bit. But, this would have to accompany a real budget to get it done correctly. Are you submitting this to the tourism entity on the island? I wonder why anybody would deserve this for free? If this project is for no pay, why would any in the future pay? Just thinking out loud here. |
May 27th, 2014, 06:29 PM | #19 |
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Just to quickly clarify the "unpaid" part: the marketing company that does marketing for the island's tourism board was hosting a competition, looking for photographers, filmmakers, bloggers, etc. to apply for a free trip to the island--all expenses paid. Teams were two people each and they were sending six teams. The director and I thought it would be a great opportunity to go on an adventure and make something from it, so we applied to go. We were picked as one of the six teams from over 1100 applicants. And here is the thing: they are picking a "winning team" from the trip, and that team gets $5000. It's also worth mentioning that we retain ownership of anything we created on the island, so the tourism board/Dominica doesn't own the video.
Even if we were selected as winners, this video is obviously worth much more than $5000. Hell, that wouldn't have even cover my shooting rate, let alone the director's, my gear, our editing, color, sound, etc. but I do have to say that the marketing company was opening an opportunity and by no means did we have to apply for the trip. We wanted to do this. Like I said in an earlier message, it can be hard to get work in a certain style without already having examples of that kind of work. A lot of my "bread and butter" work is corporate stuff, internal business videos, animations, etc. Now, I do a good amount of paid work, I freelance full-time, so this is my job. I understand the implication of doing free work, but I also understand the benefits of having a project like this in my portfolio. As much as I hate "it will look great in your demo reel!", it's true that I have been contacted about a project only to be turned down because I didn't already have examples of that type of work. Sorry I haven't responded to some of the other comments you guys had, I just wanted to get this typed up so you have a little bit more information regarding the context of this video. Last edited by Josh Becker; May 27th, 2014 at 10:12 PM. |
May 28th, 2014, 07:58 PM | #20 |
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Cool Josh. Thanks for the added info. Best of luck in the competition.
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June 2nd, 2014, 12:36 AM | #21 |
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So, like I explained before, this project was created through something called the Dominica Film Challenge. Other teams were involved and did their own photo or video project, but one team will be picked for a $5000 prize. If you could go to this page and scroll down to the little up/down voting area, then click the up vote arrow, I would really appreciate it! Dominica Challenge | Trent & Josh Thanks again everyone who has watched the video and given feedback/critique! |
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You have got my vote :)
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