flip out monitor showing pre-compression or compressed footage? at DVinfo.net

Fischer Spooner · April 29th, 2006, 01:46 PM

I'm constantly having this problem that what looks properly exposed on the HC1's flip screen monitor ends up looking underexposed in Final Cut Pro.

Could it be that the monitor is showing the HD signal before it is compressed?

Or does the monitor show the signal after it has been compressed? And if so, then I guess I should be satisfied that the image can be color corrected--because all of the information discerned on the LCD has been stored on tape?

Evan Dowling · April 30th, 2006, 08:14 AM

That's odd. I have the opposite problem. Things that look fine on my LCD turn out overexposed. Maybe personal taste differences.

Gian Pablo Villamil · April 30th, 2006, 08:34 AM

Don't rely on the LCD monitor alone, it is not a calibrated monitor. Show the histogram and use that to gauge your exposure. The viewfinder is slightly better for showing exposure (because it is less subject to ambient light + higher resolution).

Stu Holmes · April 30th, 2006, 09:19 AM

I would say that the monitor is showing pre-compressed footage. Compression and encoding on the HC1 takes up to 0.5secs and so that isn't what you're seeing on the monitor. It's probably just scaled-down, otherwise raw. The key hting with the monitor is that there's the absolute minimum of delay between real-time and what you're seeing, so the LCD monitor (and viewfinder) images need the absolute minimum of processing.

Robert Leitner · May 2nd, 2006, 02:39 PM

Fischer Spooner!

What do you think about this solution? :

http://www.rowe.at/de/images/stories...2VF_promo.html

time by time we calibrate the vf for proper exposure setting.
But the best is that you can shoot at bright sunlight without the disadvantages of a LCD.
We have tested this solution also with a HD100!

robert

Francois Camoin · May 7th, 2006, 06:40 PM

One possibility is that your Final Cut Pro monitor is not properly calibrated. It could be set too bright. Have you tried importing other footage from a different camera into Final Cut? Does it also look too bright?

Then of course the LCD on the camera can be adjusted for brightness, so if your footage consistently looks good on it, and overexposed in Final Cut, you could just turn down the brightness on your camera LCD.

Finally, the histogram is useful, but it takes some experience to read it.

Fischer Spooner · May 12th, 2006, 11:27 AM

my god, what is a histogram??!?

Heath McKnight · May 31st, 2006, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fischer Spooner

my god, what is a histogram??!?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=68055

hwm

April 29th, 2006, 01:46 PM	#1
Fischer Spooner Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100	flip out monitor showing pre-compression or compressed footage? I'm constantly having this problem that what looks properly exposed on the HC1's flip screen monitor ends up looking underexposed in Final Cut Pro. Could it be that the monitor is showing the HD signal before it is compressed? Or does the monitor show the signal after it has been compressed? And if so, then I guess I should be satisfied that the image can be color corrected--because all of the information discerned on the LCD has been stored on tape?

April 30th, 2006, 08:14 AM	#2
Evan Dowling Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Myers , Florida Posts: 64	That's odd. I have the opposite problem. Things that look fine on my LCD turn out overexposed. Maybe personal taste differences. __________________ Evan Dowling HDV 1080i Sony HDR-HC1

May 12th, 2006, 11:27 AM	#7
Fischer Spooner Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100	histogram? my god, what is a histogram??!?

April 30th, 2006, 08:34 AM	#3
Gian Pablo Villamil Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 138	Don't rely on the LCD monitor alone, it is not a calibrated monitor. Show the histogram and use that to gauge your exposure. The viewfinder is slightly better for showing exposure (because it is less subject to ambient light + higher resolution).

April 30th, 2006, 09:19 AM	#4
Stu Holmes Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 844	I would say that the monitor is showing pre-compressed footage. Compression and encoding on the HC1 takes up to 0.5secs and so that isn't what you're seeing on the monitor. It's probably just scaled-down, otherwise raw. The key hting with the monitor is that there's the absolute minimum of delay between real-time and what you're seeing, so the LCD monitor (and viewfinder) images need the absolute minimum of processing.

May 2nd, 2006, 02:39 PM	#5
Robert Leitner New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austria Posts: 10	Fischer Spooner! What do you think about this solution? : http://www.rowe.at/de/images/stories...2VF_promo.html time by time we calibrate the vf for proper exposure setting. But the best is that you can shoot at bright sunlight without the disadvantages of a LCD. We have tested this solution also with a HD100! robert

May 7th, 2006, 06:40 PM	#6
Francois Camoin Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 29	One possibility is that your Final Cut Pro monitor is not properly calibrated. It could be set too bright. Have you tried importing other footage from a different camera into Final Cut? Does it also look too bright? Then of course the LCD on the camera can be adjusted for brightness, so if your footage consistently looks good on it, and overexposed in Final Cut, you could just turn down the brightness on your camera LCD. Finally, the histogram is useful, but it takes some experience to read it.