Sony HDR-FX7 is out!!

Heath McKnight · September 9th, 2006, 10:10 AM

Sony apparently has this device:

http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...gcfkmcfjfdhk.0

Looks like we'll be able to record to disk (longer record times, they say, like the Fire Store) AND record a tape back up, all at the same time. NICE!

heath

Barry Green · September 9th, 2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw

Really? That's excellent news. Is that documented anywhere yet I can reference on the internet?

They announced it the very same day the original AVC-HD press release was announced. I googled it and didn't find the original press release but this popped up:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...Camcorders.htm

Panasonic and Sony announced a joint press release about AVC-HD, and the same day Panasonic made a separate press release that said "in addition to mini-DVD, we'll also be producing Secure Digital (SD card) AVC-HD camcorders."

Paulo Teixeira · September 9th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Kevin Shaw,
Here is a picture of Panasonic’s consumer AVCHD camcorder that clearly states SD on the side.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...05/ifa6_09.jpg
Keep in mind that it’s not necessarily the final design.

Heath McKnight · September 9th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Interesting. Definitely a cool design, but very consumerish, user-friendly design.

hwm

Thomas Smet · September 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM

Hey that kind of looks like that very first DV camera panasonic ever made and I think was the very first dv camera ever. That thing was a piece of junk and people laughed at the design. What the heck were they thinking by digging up that old fossil?

Paulo Teixeira · September 10th, 2006, 12:18 AM

Here is a link to a video of that camcorder that I posted on this forum about 2 ½ months ago.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70368098315550
The Panasonic consumer HD camcorder is mentioned at 3 minute 10 seconds.

Hopefully Panasonic will reveal its final design soon.

Kevin Shaw · September 10th, 2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

Here is a link to a video of that camcorder that I posted on this forum about 2 ½ months ago.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70368098315550
The Panasonic consumer HD camcorder is mentioned at 3 minute 10 seconds.

Hey Paul, thanks for the video - I like the smile on the salesman's face when he pulls out the mockup camera. I hope Panasonic doesn't limit themselves to consumer-oriented cameras for AVCHD: what I'd really like to see is a simplified version of the HVX200 with the same basic physical design using standard flash memory cards. I guess we'll find out next year whether or not they do that.

Allen Lu · September 12th, 2006, 11:57 PM

Guys,

For FX-1 owners, this spec alone keeps the value for FX-1's out there.

Theres a lot of complaining about the low light ability of the HC3, so why so giddly about the new FX7 with 8 lux for low light?

The FX7 seems to follow the same path as the HC1 vs HC3. People like the HC1 better.

Stu Holmes · September 13th, 2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Lu

so why so giddly about the new FX7 with 8 lux for low light?

8 lux is the Japanese rating system for lux. It's equivalent to approx. 4lux of "Western" lux rating.

Carlos E. Martinez · September 15th, 2006, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw

But given that the XH-A1 has XLR inputs and a 20X zoom lens for under $4K, it will probably be very popular for event videographers.

If the reason to go for the A1 is XLR inputs only, with that likely difference in price ($3.2K vs $4K) you can add a Sound Devices Mix Pre and end up with a much better audio control than even the Z1.

Controlling and adjusting in-camera audio is really a pain. With the Mix Pre you will have better preamps, better limiters and better LED metering.

Carlos

R.P. Cuenco · September 18th, 2006, 07:24 PM

Now, if the FX7 has HDMI out, will it be possible to output HD through the HDMI, and DV out the firewire? So that I would possibly be able to capture both streams for realtime editing with dv, then use the xml function in fcp a la lumierehd style? it would be sweet for encoding-less capture

Heath McKnight · September 18th, 2006, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.P. Cuenco

Now, if the FX7 has HDMI out, will it be possible to output HD through the HDMI, and DV out the firewire? So that I would possibly be able to capture both streams for realtime editing with dv, then use the xml function in fcp a la lumierehd style? it would be sweet for encoding-less capture

The V1e has it and I wonder if us Mac and PC folks can capture without hitting the HDV codec using this:

http://www.decklink.com/products/intensity/

heath

ps-We talk about it here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=75102

September 9th, 2006, 10:10 AM	#46
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September 9th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#49
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Interesting. Definitely a cool design, but very consumerish, user-friendly design. hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 12th, 2006, 11:57 PM	#53
Allen Lu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 65	8 lux for low light Guys, For FX-1 owners, this spec alone keeps the value for FX-1's out there. Theres a lot of complaining about the low light ability of the HC3, so why so giddly about the new FX7 with 8 lux for low light? The FX7 seems to follow the same path as the HC1 vs HC3. People like the HC1 better.

September 18th, 2006, 07:24 PM	#56
R.P. Cuenco Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 118	Now, if the FX7 has HDMI out, will it be possible to output HD through the HDMI, and DV out the firewire? So that I would possibly be able to capture both streams for realtime editing with dv, then use the xml function in fcp a la lumierehd style? it would be sweet for encoding-less capture __________________ Letus35 Flip on HC1 FCP5 w/ Intel Mac Mini and Powerbook Ti G4

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September 9th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#48
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Kevin Shaw, Here is a picture of Panasonic’s consumer AVCHD camcorder that clearly states SD on the side. http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...05/ifa6_09.jpg Keep in mind that it’s not necessarily the final design.

September 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#50
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	Hey that kind of looks like that very first DV camera panasonic ever made and I think was the very first dv camera ever. That thing was a piece of junk and people laughed at the design. What the heck were they thinking by digging up that old fossil?

September 10th, 2006, 12:18 AM	#51
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Here is a link to a video of that camcorder that I posted on this forum about 2 ½ months ago. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...70368098315550 The Panasonic consumer HD camcorder is mentioned at 3 minute 10 seconds. Hopefully Panasonic will reveal its final design soon.