Record to JVC 30000U DVHS from FX1?

Heath McKnight · September 28th, 2004, 09:19 AM

Oh, yeah, I've already spoken to someone who knows HDV, which is why, if you look around here, I've changed my answers to "not sure until the camera comes out."

Aldo Erdic · September 28th, 2004, 09:36 AM

Damn, that is a major disappointment.........not only no firewire output to D-VHS, but also not to HD TV or blue ray recorders. And another note in Mullen's review, no way to edit 1080i:

"Bottom line until Apple, Avid, Adobe, Pinnacle, Sony (Vegas, VIAO, and XPRI), and Ulead release the 1080i HDV support they all announced at IBC—you may not be able to edit 1080i HDV. "

Despite all this, I probably will still get the camera. Afterall, these are all software issues that can be resolved, no??? In the meantime I'll just down convert to SD to view, edit and create DVDs.

Heath McKnight · September 28th, 2004, 09:46 AM

No worries, both CineForm and Lumiere HD promise we'll be able to edit 1080i HDV.

heath

Troy Lamont · October 3rd, 2004, 01:22 AM

Based on the chart listed here, it would appear that the stream type over firewire would still be an MPEG2 TS stream. I'm not sure if just the data on the tape is saved as a PES and then output as TS over firewire or not.

Anyone else's take on that data chart?

Another realization that I had was given the fact that Ulead, Sony and all the other video editing software makers have their 1080i editing plugins in the works, they may allow a straight conversion from PES to TS and that would allow you to then output the stream via firewire to a D-VHS machine, Blu-Ray machine or another TS compatible device. All may not be lost! Here's to hope! :-)

Troy

Troy Lamont · November 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM

Based on the manual it seems as if the FX1 can be directly connected to a firewire equipped display device and playback HD.

Pg 90 of the manual specifically lists ~40 Sony firewire equipped HDTVs that are compatible with the FX1. These HDTVs are also compatible with the HD1/10 (which I have personally tested) which concludes that the firewire output from the FX1 would also be compatible with D-VHS decks. All of these firewire sources are MPEG2-TS compatible.

Troy

September 28th, 2004, 09:19 AM	#16
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Oh, yeah, I've already spoken to someone who knows HDV, which is why, if you look around here, I've changed my answers to "not sure until the camera comes out." __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 28th, 2004, 09:46 AM	#18
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	No worries, both CineForm and Lumiere HD promise we'll be able to edit 1080i HDV. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 3rd, 2004, 01:22 AM	#19
Troy Lamont Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 236	Steve wrong?! Based on the chart listed here, it would appear that the stream type over firewire would still be an MPEG2 TS stream. I'm not sure if just the data on the tape is saved as a PES and then output as TS over firewire or not. Anyone else's take on that data chart? Another realization that I had was given the fact that Ulead, Sony and all the other video editing software makers have their 1080i editing plugins in the works, they may allow a straight conversion from PES to TS and that would allow you to then output the stream via firewire to a D-VHS machine, Blu-Ray machine or another TS compatible device. All may not be lost! Here's to hope! :-) Troy

November 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM	#20
Troy Lamont Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 236	Update: Based on the manual it seems as if the FX1 can be directly connected to a firewire equipped display device and playback HD. Pg 90 of the manual specifically lists ~40 Sony firewire equipped HDTVs that are compatible with the FX1. These HDTVs are also compatible with the HD1/10 (which I have personally tested) which concludes that the firewire output from the FX1 would also be compatible with D-VHS decks. All of these firewire sources are MPEG2-TS compatible. Troy

September 28th, 2004, 09:36 AM	#17
Aldo Erdic Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 34	Damn, that is a major disappointment.........not only no firewire output to D-VHS, but also not to HD TV or blue ray recorders. And another note in Mullen's review, no way to edit 1080i: "Bottom line until Apple, Avid, Adobe, Pinnacle, Sony (Vegas, VIAO, and XPRI), and Ulead release the 1080i HDV support they all announced at IBC—you may not be able to edit 1080i HDV. " Despite all this, I probably will still get the camera. Afterall, these are all software issues that can be resolved, no??? In the meantime I'll just down convert to SD to view, edit and create DVDs.