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December 31st, 2013, 02:27 PM | #1 |
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Sony EA50 Picture Profile
So I've been testing and trying out profiles for the EA50, including ones made for the FS100. I wanted a profile that would require little grading in post, as the EA50 doesn't provide the best files for that purpose. I went from heavy adjustments in post to a nice filmic image, then kept adjusting the profile until it is pretty much spot-on with what I'm grading. The only post grading this may need is a correction like white balance or exposure in case you messed up in shooting. Again, this is not intended to be graded but rather be as close in-camera as possible. This is NOT a "log" style profile. I think it's really nice and I'll be using it for most projects and then switching to the F3 for stuff that I want to grade.
This is created for BOTH indoor and outdoor situations. This is what I'm calling "CPF FILMIC 1.0": (I'm throwing in explanations of the settings to hopefully pre-answer any thoughts that any of you may have.) BLACK LEVEL: 0 GAMMA: Cinematone1 (Places the midtones to around IRE 35, where they should be for a filmic look) BLK GAMMA: Middle, +7 (Pulls the detail out from the shadows) KNEE: Manual, 75%, +1 (Nice rolloff while maintaining detail) COLOR MODE: Cinematone1, 8 COLOR LEVEL: +2 (The magic number in my opinion with this camera) COLOR PHASE: -7 (Helps keep reds from bleeding and skintones from being too rosy) COLOR DEPTH: R+4, G+3, B+5, C+2, M 0, Y+3 (Positive numbers darken the color channel...make a more pronounce and punchy color gamut) WB SHIFT: LB-CC, LB-3, CC-1, rest 0 (I have found that I always correct towards blue 99% of the time, so I pushed it a little more to this color temp) DETAIL: +3, Manual ON, Type 3, Limit 7 (I debate this everytime, but adding sharpening in camera is always desired over doing it in post on AVCHD footage. I think +3 is the magic number) Hope someone finds this helpful! R |
December 31st, 2013, 07:31 PM | #2 |
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Hi Richard
Thanks for this! Certainly worth a try and the details you have added make your reasons for each setting self explanatory. I have been sticking to PP3 with a lifted colour level for both indoors and outdoors but so many people here are still searching for a profile that will work inside and out! Some feedback from others might be nice if you try Richard's suggested settings? Chris |
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Nice work Richard - I'll have a play around with this setting :)
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January 5th, 2014, 09:34 PM | #4 |
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There is a EA50 in Rowlett, TX?
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thanks a lot, is there any other profiles you might be chasing down? maybe a log type profile?
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January 6th, 2014, 02:40 PM | #6 |
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I don't have the camera anymore but I keep collecting valuable info about it, I hope you don't mind that I shared your findings on my blog (see link below), I have made a clear reference to this site and the fact that you made the preset. Thx for sharing!
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Wow! I think someone just put a polarizing filter on my lens and replaced my SD card with Kodachrome! I don't know about "most jobs" but this will have a place. Thank you Richard.
Is it just me....I don't see much of a difference between preset #1 and OFF? So I dialed this one into #1 for now? Steve
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No plans for a log profile, but I don't see any reason you can't use CPF-LOG that we created for the FS100 on the EA50. In retrospect, what I really needed when I created CPF-LOG was the F3 with S-LOG. 8bit AVCHD and log profiles with heavy post grading are honestly a recipe for disaster. It's always best to not go so flat in these cameras.
I think the best profile to use if you want a neutral profile that you can grade that isn't so flat and washed out is the one I created to match the Sony 5n: CPF_LOG2: Black Level: 0 Gamma: ITU709 Black Gamma: Low, +7 Knee: Manual, 80%, -3 Color Mode: Standard, 8 Color Level: -1 Color Phase: 0 Color Depth, All 0 WB Shift: All 0 Detail: +3, Manual On, Type3, Limit 7 Quote:
EXTACHROME profile: Black Level: +15 Gamma: CINEMATONE1 Black Gamma: Low, +7 Knee: Manual, 70%, +1 Color Mode: ITU709, 8 Color Level: +2 Color Phase: +3 Color Depth, R+5, G-5, B+5, C+2, M+3, Y+7 WB Shift: R-B, Rgain-3, Bgain+5 Detail: +3, Manual On, Type3, Limit 7, Crispening 4 |
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January 9th, 2014, 11:28 AM | #9 |
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Very handy info indeed - Thanks Guys I'll give it a go.
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Richard,
I posted a sample clip I shot with the first profile: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-nex...file-clip.html Your the MAN! Steve
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January 13th, 2014, 06:47 PM | #11 |
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Thanks! I've been shooting with all these profiles the past week and really like the CPF_filmic the best. :)
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January 27th, 2014, 07:17 AM | #12 |
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Has anyone got anywhere near these Canon Flaat profiles?
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January 29th, 2014, 11:21 AM | #13 |
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Here are PP settings to get the 5D Technicolor Cinestyle "look" for the Sony FS100, you'll have to play around with the settings a little for it on the EA50 but this should get you pretty close.
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Many thanks - I'll have a look. :)
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