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Alex Dolgin November 21st, 2006 05:42 AM

Does not have to be a Sony battery. Lenmar makes good quality batteries, 100% compatible with the Sony "Infolithium" standard. (They are more expensive than "Ebay" batteries, but much less costly than Sony)

Daniel Lynn January 20th, 2007 05:32 PM

VX2100 Battery Questions
 
Me again!

I had a question about the batteries available for the VX2100. On the Sony website, it claims that the NP-F770 gets up to 10 hours of use (I'm assuming that's with only the viewfinder, under simple settings). However, the listing is for a Handycam. Should I make the the assumption that the Handycam uses less juice in general and that using the F770 in my VX2100 with give me significantly less time than 10 hours? If so, how many hours with the battery give me? The sony website doesn't list it.

Is anybody using this battery. I don't need a 10 hour battery, but if on the VX2100 that same battery is only a 3-5 hour battery, than that's what I need.

Thanks!

Daniel

Chris Barcellos January 20th, 2007 05:46 PM

I think that is fine. The Sony power consumption is one of many nice things about these cameras. They are stingy with use of power.

On my VX2000 I use the 550, and can get a couple of hours with it. I also have a Lenmar 750, which I can shoot for 3 to four hours, with the LCD actually open a lot.

I also use a Lenmar 950 for my FX1, and get all day use out of the battery. (I define all day as shooting alot, leaving camera on sometimes, but not running, shooting all the time. Point is, I can start out the day, with the 750 or the 950 on either of the cameras, and have one back up for each 550 or 330, and not be worried about not having enough power for the day...

Terence Murphy January 20th, 2007 09:53 PM

I believe the battery you're talking about is the NP-970 (not a 770, which I don't think even exists). On my VX2100, I can shoot 8+ hours of tape, LCD on, using zoom and LOTS of start/stop recording, on a single Sony-brand NP-970. Absolutely amazing battery life. So basically I would expect to get the advertised run times for all the Sony batteries (isn't that unusual)?

-Terence

Boyd Ostroff January 20th, 2007 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terence Murphy
I believe the battery you're talking about is the NP-970 (not a 770, which I don't think even exists).

No, there is a Sony 770:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

I don't have any experience with it however. I haven't used my VX-2000 for a long time, but when I did I could get about 8 hours with the LCD on, zooming, starting, stopping, rewinding, etc. using an NP-F960 battery, which was a bit larger than that NP-F770. The 960 has since been replaced by the NP-F970. I now have two 970's and one of my old 960's which I use on my Z1. The Z1 definitely draws more power... I get maybe 5 hours with the 970. But on your VX-2100 I'm pretty confident you would see more than 8 hours with a 970.

Personally I would get a couple of these instead of the 770's, you never know when you might need the extra run time. But the VX is really a low power champ as well as a low light champ!

Steve Wolla January 21st, 2007 02:53 AM

I would just get the 970. It is a great battery, it allows you to shoot almost all day with it and not have to worry.

Tom Hardwick January 21st, 2007 03:13 AM

I agree. I have two 960s and they are a quite remarkably compact and light storage container for so much power.

Daniel Lynn January 21st, 2007 04:28 AM

Here's the Scoop...
 
I must have been giving this matter a lot of thought beacause my waking thoughts this morning were: check the product manual.

In case anyone else was wondering and doesn't have a manual, here's a brief outline:

NP-F570 - 90 (typical w/ LCD screen) to 230 (continuous w/ viewfinder)
NP-F770 - 190 to 470
NP-F970 - 295 to 705
(those are approximate minutes of recording time)

I ended up buying the F770 from BHPhotovideo.

Thanks for all the help.

Gabriel Ng February 26th, 2007 11:06 PM

Can't find PD170's backup battery
 
Hi all... need a lil help here...

My church's PD170 gives a "SET CLOCK" message each time it's powered up and all its settings has been reseted.

I've searched the web and all over this forum for a way to replace the CR2023 battery but can't seem to find any information about it... Can't even find the little hatch that holds the battery! I'm so blind!

In its manual, it does say that the whole set comes with the CR2023 battery, and I don't think it's for the remote coz it uses AAs.

Reading on, it says that there's an internal battery that keeps its internal clock and settings when the unit isn't powered. To charge it, charge the camera for more than 24 hours, either with an AC charger or a fully charged Li-ion battery...

neither of these 2 options has worked for me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated... going back to Sony would be my last resort.

Thanks!

Azril Aziz March 21st, 2007 12:48 PM

gabriel my vx2100 also got the same 'Clock Set' problem as what you mentioned. I tried the 24 hrs AC charge but still the problem exist. Pls let me know if u have found the solution. btw my VX is about 4 yrs old. Bought it at Midvalley , Kuala Lumpur.

Azril,
Kajang,
012-286 0990

Tom Hardwick March 21st, 2007 02:07 PM

My oldest VX2k went this way. Easiest get-around is to fit a big battery (970?) and leave it there for ever - charging it on camera.

Duane Burleson March 21st, 2007 10:16 PM

In the upper right area of this exploded view you find two batteries marked BT801 and BT802. Further down is a notation about BT801 and 802. It looks like they are installed within the handle of the pd-170.


http://www2.sonysupport.com/PF/POV04...pperhandle.PDF

Duane

Grant Harrington March 30th, 2007 08:18 AM

Batteries for VX2100
 
I've got two L-series Li-Ion batteries from an old Sony TRV-540 (L330). Is there a reason to not use them on the VX2100? They aren't listed in the manual, but they are Li-Ion and L series.

I know they won't have a long life for filming, but maybe they could serve as a backup for finishing up a shoot if need be.

Thanks,
Grant

Mike Rehmus March 30th, 2007 05:18 PM

If they don't say Info-Lithium on them, they won't work. But if you install them, the camera will tell you very quickly if they will or won't.

Grant Harrington March 30th, 2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Rehmus (Post 651674)
If they don't say Info-Lithium on them, they won't work. But if you install them, the camera will tell you very quickly if they will or won't.

Thanks. They are InfoLithium, L series, so I've got two extra "free" batteries (the old 540 camera has been sitting on a shelf collecting dust). I was more concerned with a voltage issue, but since they are Sony batteries, I should be good to go.

Thanks,
Grant

Nelson Cole April 5th, 2007 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Harrington (Post 651759)
Thanks. They are InfoLithium, L series, so I've got two extra "free" batteries (the old 540 camera has been sitting on a shelf collecting dust). I was more concerned with a voltage issue, but since they are Sony batteries, I should be good to go.

Thanks,
Grant

It seems I'm in the same boat as you, Grant. I've got an InfoLithium battery from my old TRV-230. It's an M series, apparently. I hope it works with the new VX2100 I'll likely be buying.

Grant Harrington April 6th, 2007 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson Cole (Post 654844)
It seems I'm in the same boat as you, Grant. I've got an InfoLithium battery from my old TRV-230. It's an M series, apparently. I hope it works with the new VX2100 I'll likely be buying.

M-series won't work. I've got three of those for my current cameras (two TRV-840's) and I just tried putting it in the VX2100 and it is physically different at the base where it sits in the camera back of the VX2100.

Grant

J. Stephen McDonald April 20th, 2007 12:53 AM

I have a 6-year old digital still camera with the same problem. The internal battery or capacitor it uses to keep the memory going has become senile. However, I find that if I keep batteries in it most of the time, I can take them out for about 1 day, before it starts having "senior-moments" again. I've had a VX2100 for 3 years and it hasn't lost this function yet.

I wish I could plug a battery into my brain, to keep my own memory topped-out. Today, some forget-me-nots bloomed in my yard and for several minutes I couldn't remember what they are called.

Manny Caras June 13th, 2007 11:26 PM

Which generic battery for pd170?
 
Hi folks,

I need to get an extra (or 2) sony 970 batteries for my pd170. I have been looking at ebay and seen some "generic" brands for around $40 (sometimes cheaper).

Has anybody used any of these?

Are these batteries ok to use?

Do they show the exact minutes left ?

Some come with a charger, can I use this charger with my sony "originals"?

thanks

Manny.

Maurizio Amelotti June 14th, 2007 03:26 PM

Hi, i have a PD150 with a couple of generic 970 plus an original. The cheap battery (purchased on Ebay) works fine, no problem at all, same record time of original brand.

Manny Caras June 16th, 2007 12:29 AM

Thanks for your reply maurizio..but I heard or read somewhere that on the pd 170 some of these batteries don't work...has anybody out there experienced this?

manny

Maurizio Amelotti June 16th, 2007 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Caras (Post 697550)
Thanks for your reply maurizio..but I heard or read somewhere that on the pd 170 some of these batteries don't work...has anybody out there experienced this?


I'm sorry but i don't know problems about generic battery on 170, i confirm my positive experience on my 150 with generic brand just picked on the bunch of ebay sellers.

Richard Zlamany June 17th, 2007 12:28 AM

No name generic batteries at Ebay work on my 2100 & pd170. However, the brand Impact bought at BH do not work with either cam.

The Ebay batteries last 2 to 3 times less than the Sony's.

Adi Head September 23rd, 2007 05:54 PM

3 Questions: Battery dying on me / Settings reset / Cleaning tape head
 
I bought an my PAL PD-150 about 4 years ago and it has served me faithfully.

Recently I've been running into some problems. Three problems to be percise:

1. My Sony InfoLITHIUM L - NP-F960 battery (also about 4 years old) has been running out after only about an hour of normal use. Even if used immediately after being fully charged and in warm weather. It would usually last for at least 9 hours, with zooming, rewinding, the works - but now it just empties real quick. The display in the camera shows the battery has hundreds of minutes left on it, then suddenly I get the flashing "Low Battery" warning, and within a couple of minutes, it just completely dies on me.

2. This next problem happens once in a while, with no apparent pattern to it. I'll be in the middle of a shoot and have my preferred settings on the camera - custom white balance, auto shutter OFF, NR OFF, some custom presets, etc. I'll take a break and turn my camera OFF. Getting back to the camera after the break and turning it back ON, I'll find that all settings and presets have been reset to the default settings. This can happen when switching batteries, following an automated switch off after being idle, or in any other situation where the camera is turned off and back on again. Real bummer.

3. When starting to record something, I'll sometimes get a message saying something like "Cleaning Tape Head", or something else in that manner. Nothing else doesn't appear to happen. I press stop and then record again and everything seems to be back to normal. Just curious to know if this might mean something I should be aware of.

That's it. Those are my burning questions... will be grateful for any informative replies.

Thanks!

Alex Dolgin September 23rd, 2007 06:26 PM

The Li-Ion batteries do not last much more than 4 years, it is time to get a new battery.
HTH

Adi Head September 23rd, 2007 07:56 PM

Thanks Alex. I figured I'd be needing to get a new battery.

Any thoughts about my other two problems? Could the settings be resetting due to battery problems as well? Is there some connection? or are these two different problems that just happened to appear approximately at the same time?

Alex Dolgin September 23rd, 2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adi Head (Post 748955)
Thanks Alex. I figured I'd be needing to get a new battery.

Any thoughts about my other two problems? Could the settings be resetting due to battery problems as well? Is there some connection? or are these two different problems that just happened to appear approximately at the same time?

The settings are usually stored separately, backed up by a small coin battery. Not sure where this coin battery is in your camera.

"Cleaning tape" message is a result of an intermittent head clog, try to clean the heads by the cleaning tape.

Tom Tomkowiak October 1st, 2007 01:05 PM

Same battery problem
 
Adi,

If it's any consolation, I have a Sony 960 battery that's now less than 3 years old and it started doing the same thing about 6 months ago. It starts out showing a full charge. After operating the camera for at least an hour or two, the battery time remaining shown on the LCD seems to be correct.

Then, poof, time remaining drops to zero.

I guess there's what, a 90-day or 1-year warranty on those things? So, no sympathy, or a partial credit, from Sony.

Interestingly, I have a couple of generic batteries that are about a year older than the 960, and they continue to work perfectly.

Bevan Walsh October 5th, 2007 04:52 AM

PD150 internal battery problem?
 
I've got an trusty old PD150 which I havent used in a while but is now not holding any of the settings i put in once it's turned off and on again (even for a second) - as soon as it comes back on I have to reset the clock even! very frustrating...

I'd heard that it was the internal battery that needed charging up again coz I hadn't used the camera in a while... fair enough... so I left it plugged into the mains (i think charging?) for 24 hours and it still does exactly the same thing!

HELP!

Dave Dodds October 5th, 2007 08:38 AM

I think your assumption about the internal battery is spot on. I borrowed a friend's 150 once to use as a b-cam to my 170 and it had the same problem. Only, his only lost the settings when a power source was removed, and it held info when it was off as long as it was plugged in or had a battery in it.

I would call Sony. That sounds like something that they can fix or at least give you advice about. www.sony.com/professional

Keep us posted. I'd love to know what to do if this eventually happens to my cam. Good luck.

~~Dave

Terence Murphy October 5th, 2007 09:00 AM

See this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ternal+battery

-Terence

Bevan Walsh October 5th, 2007 12:42 PM

keeping a battery or it connected to the mains works but i kind of want to find a fix rather than a work around...

im not sure but is that other thread suggesting that the internal batteries are in the cameras handle and that they can be replaced? anyone tried this? doesnt look too tricky but i dont want to make the problem worse!

Bevan Walsh October 8th, 2007 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duane Burleson (Post 645893)
In the upper right area of this exploded view you find two batteries marked BT801 and BT802. Further down is a notation about BT801 and 802. It looks like they are installed within the handle of the pd-170.


http://www2.sonysupport.com/PF/POV04...pperhandle.PDF

Duane

My PD150 has the same problem. Are you suggesting taking the camera apart and replacing the batteries? Has anyone tried this?

Bevan Walsh October 8th, 2007 10:09 AM

i spoke with a Sony authorised repair place and they told me this:

"The battery in question is located on the CK 093 board.
Battery spare part number is BT250, 1-528-724-21, sell price 13.93GBP.
Labour charge for replacing would be 1 hours Labour, 75.00GBP.
Our Engineer feels that anyone who is competent in soldering would be okay doing this job."

I don't think this is the same place as the diagram PDF in the other thread... Can anyone tell me where the battery is after reading the above? I have a friend who's pretty good with a soldering iron so might be able to fix this myself....

Bevan Walsh October 9th, 2007 04:33 AM

i spoke with a Sony authorised repair place and they told me this:

"The battery in question is located on the CK 093 board.
Battery spare part number is BT250, 1-528-724-21, sell price 13.93GBP.
Labour charge for replacing would be 1 hours Labour, 75.00GBP.
Our Engineer feels that anyone who is competent in soldering would be okay doing this job."

I don't think this is the same place as the diagram PDF above... Can anyone tell me how to get to the CK 093 board? I have a friend who's pretty good with a soldering iron so might be able to fix this myself....

Tom Hardwick October 9th, 2007 05:08 AM

I would be very surprised to hear that it was a soldering job Bevan. I'm pretty sure the Sony man was using the term to signify a certain DIY aptitude.

I'd suggest you tackle it yourself. Go gently, take pictures as you go along and stick the removed tiny screws through a piece of paper so you don't lose them. On the paper have a rough drawing of the camera and that'll show you where the screw came from.

tom.

Bevan Walsh October 10th, 2007 05:09 PM

ah! that's great to hear! well, in that case im sure i can manage it myself!

if only i knew where the CK 093 board was!? any ideas?

Tom Hardwick October 11th, 2007 02:15 AM

I've seen the workshop manual with its exploded views that take you step by step through the teardown process, though can't for the life of me find the link. Hrere's a starting block though:

http://www.dvinfo.net/sony/index.php

Nick Boxler November 3rd, 2007 02:48 PM

best vx2100 battery.
 
i got a battery on ebay a while back, and it was a pretty big battery, but now it doesn't hold a charge anymore, and i didn't even have it for that long!

so i was wondering who makes a really good, relatively good battery that will hold it's charge.
i've been looking at NP-F970 batteries.
but i'm not sure.

thanks!

Michael Kladky November 3rd, 2007 03:38 PM

best battery
 
I only use Sony batteries in my vx2100. They can be found on ebay.

Regards,
Michael Kladky


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