EX1 Saving SxS Content at DVinfo.net

David B. Monier-Williams · May 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM

I planning on buying an EX1 when most of the on-going issues are hopefully resolved, probably at year's end.

I'll be 77 and travel to Europe alone for several months at a time. I take about 10+ hr of tape or ten 16GB of SxSs. Ten SxS cards are too expensive. So what are my options?

Buy the cheapest, smallest and lightest laptop---mini notebook with an Express card slot and a 250 GB External HD. Loading the latest XDCAM EX Browser to view the clips.

If so what do you recommend?

Weight and cost are the governing factors. My camera bag full is 20lb and my luggage is another 20lb.

Any input gratefully received.
Thanks,

Dave

Gabriel Chiefetz · May 9th, 2008, 07:15 PM

Dave,

You might look into the HP 2133 UMPC. It's a very small laptop with an ExpressCard slot. I do *not* know if it works with SxS cards. I'm waiting to see if someone here will try it.

This is completely off topic, but are you by any chance related to Sir Monier Monier-Williams? I used his dictionary in college!

Andrew Hollister · May 9th, 2008, 08:15 PM

Two of these Lacie Rugged drives http://tinyurl.com/69wofz (like NASA always have a backup) together they are less than one pound (8.8 oz each)

Small Sony Viao laptop like this http://tinyurl.com/5leh96 (4 lbs)

Totaling 5.6 pounds (not including power supplies and extra swag)

And check out that ShotPut EXpress software so you can save to both drives at the same time. Only $49

Serena Steuart · May 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Is it practical to download to portable HDD using internet cafe machines? Would mean carrying the Sony card reader plus software on a thumb drive. I've never used an internet cafe, hence the question. Obviously not as convenient as having your own machine, but has other obvious advantages.

David B. Monier-Williams · May 10th, 2008, 08:02 AM

Thanks for the replies. I gave the HP 2133 UMPC a coursory check but didn't find a SXS slot. I'll check further later today.

Andrew, if the Hp works it would save a lot of weight and cost over the Vaio.

The problem with a portable HDD is that you need Sony software to load on to the internet cafe's machine to view the files.

Thanks for all your input.

David

Andrew Hollister · May 10th, 2008, 08:06 AM

Internet cafe computer: Does the USB reader need the SxS drivers for the computer to acknowledge the card? The cafe' people may not allow installing of programs on their computers...

Also, would you be worried about corrupting the media? Internet cafe computers may not be the cleanest of machines...

Greg Boston · May 10th, 2008, 08:10 AM

You might be interested then in the new 60 gb hard drive unit that Sony unveiled at NAB. It's a nice little unit that sits on the camera's shoe and has a mini-USB to SxS adapter cable. 210 minutes of continuous recording at full quality. Availability is supposed to be July.

It's roughly the size of a deck of playing cards in width and thickness, but a bit shorter in length. Runs on its own separate battery (same type the camera uses) or on an AC adapter.

-gb-

David B. Monier-Williams · May 10th, 2008, 08:25 AM

I just checked out the HP 2133 UMPC again. It has a SxS 54 slot. I'll have to check on Monday with HP if it will accept SxS 34s. I believe it will.

Andrew I agree with you on the internet cafes.

Greg, you must consider that the added weight of the 60 GB PLUS the added battery violates this 77 year olds rule of, "Lighter is better."...LOL! It would have to be at least 160GB anyway.

Clark Peters · May 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM

SxS cards will fit in Expresscard 54 slots. They just use the back two-thirds of the slot.

I bought an inexpensive Dell Vostro with a 250gb HDD. (Dell had them on sale a couple months ago.) I teamed that up with an external 250 gb HDD as backup. I was trying to come up with a batch-file operation to automate copying files to the computer's HDD and external HDD. I'm going to give ShotPut a try.

The laptop isn't the lightest weight option, but until Sony decides to put a bigger HDD into their portable recorder (Come on, 60gb? What were they thinking?) the laptop will have to do.

Pete

Serena Steuart · May 10th, 2008, 08:22 PM

>>>Does the USB reader need the SxS drivers for the computer to acknowledge the card?<<<

Indeed it does and would have to be installed, as would ShotPut_Express. So probably not permitted by cafe as well as unwise due to security questions. Nicely cleared up!

EDIT: Actually ShotPut has a single machine licence, so one would have to use the Sony software anyway.

May 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#1
David B. Monier-Williams New Boot Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 13	EX1 Saving SxS Content I planning on buying an EX1 when most of the on-going issues are hopefully resolved, probably at year's end. I'll be 77 and travel to Europe alone for several months at a time. I take about 10+ hr of tape or ten 16GB of SxSs. Ten SxS cards are too expensive. So what are my options? Buy the cheapest, smallest and lightest laptop---mini notebook with an Express card slot and a 250 GB External HD. Loading the latest XDCAM EX Browser to view the clips. If so what do you recommend? Weight and cost are the governing factors. My camera bag full is 20lb and my luggage is another 20lb. Any input gratefully received. Thanks, Dave Last edited by David B. Monier-Williams; May 9th, 2008 at 05:37 PM. Reason: incorrect signature

May 9th, 2008, 08:15 PM	#3
Andrew Hollister Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 198	Two of these Lacie Rugged drives http://tinyurl.com/69wofz (like NASA always have a backup) together they are less than one pound (8.8 oz each) Small Sony Viao laptop like this http://tinyurl.com/5leh96 (4 lbs) Totaling 5.6 pounds (not including power supplies and extra swag) And check out that ShotPut EXpress software so you can save to both drives at the same time. Only $49 __________________ Sony EX1 v1.11, crap loads of SxS, Macs w/ Final Cut Studio

May 10th, 2008, 08:02 AM	#5
David B. Monier-Williams New Boot Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 13	Saving SxS Content Thanks for the replies. I gave the HP 2133 UMPC a coursory check but didn't find a SXS slot. I'll check further later today. Andrew, if the Hp works it would save a lot of weight and cost over the Vaio. The problem with a portable HDD is that you need Sony software to load on to the internet cafe's machine to view the files. Thanks for all your input. David

May 10th, 2008, 08:06 AM	#6
Andrew Hollister Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 198	Internet cafe computer: Does the USB reader need the SxS drivers for the computer to acknowledge the card? The cafe' people may not allow installing of programs on their computers... Also, would you be worried about corrupting the media? Internet cafe computers may not be the cleanest of machines... __________________ Sony EX1 v1.11, crap loads of SxS, Macs w/ Final Cut Studio

May 10th, 2008, 08:25 AM	#8
David B. Monier-Williams New Boot Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 13	Saving SxS Content I just checked out the HP 2133 UMPC again. It has a SxS 54 slot. I'll have to check on Monday with HP if it will accept SxS 34s. I believe it will. Andrew I agree with you on the internet cafes. Greg, you must consider that the added weight of the 60 GB PLUS the added battery violates this 77 year olds rule of, "Lighter is better."...LOL! It would have to be at least 160GB anyway.

May 9th, 2008, 07:15 PM	#2
Gabriel Chiefetz Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 73	Dave, You might look into the HP 2133 UMPC. It's a very small laptop with an ExpressCard slot. I do not know if it works with SxS cards. I'm waiting to see if someone here will try it. This is completely off topic, but are you by any chance related to Sir Monier Monier-Williams? I used his dictionary in college!

May 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#4
Serena Steuart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Studio Alnitak, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 640 Images: 3	Is it practical to download to portable HDD using internet cafe machines? Would mean carrying the Sony card reader plus software on a thumb drive. I've never used an internet cafe, hence the question. Obviously not as convenient as having your own machine, but has other obvious advantages.

May 10th, 2008, 08:10 AM	#7
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	You might be interested then in the new 60 gb hard drive unit that Sony unveiled at NAB. It's a nice little unit that sits on the camera's shoe and has a mini-USB to SxS adapter cable. 210 minutes of continuous recording at full quality. Availability is supposed to be July. It's roughly the size of a deck of playing cards in width and thickness, but a bit shorter in length. Runs on its own separate battery (same type the camera uses) or on an AC adapter. -gb-

May 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#9
Clark Peters Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 123	SxS cards will fit in Expresscard 54 slots. They just use the back two-thirds of the slot. I bought an inexpensive Dell Vostro with a 250gb HDD. (Dell had them on sale a couple months ago.) I teamed that up with an external 250 gb HDD as backup. I was trying to come up with a batch-file operation to automate copying files to the computer's HDD and external HDD. I'm going to give ShotPut a try. The laptop isn't the lightest weight option, but until Sony decides to put a bigger HDD into their portable recorder (Come on, 60gb? What were they thinking?) the laptop will have to do. Pete

May 10th, 2008, 08:22 PM	#10
Serena Steuart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Studio Alnitak, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 640 Images: 3	>>>Does the USB reader need the SxS drivers for the computer to acknowledge the card?<<< Indeed it does and would have to be installed, as would ShotPut_Express. So probably not permitted by cafe as well as unwise due to security questions. Nicely cleared up! EDIT: Actually ShotPut has a single machine licence, so one would have to use the Sony software anyway.