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Old June 12th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #1
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EX1 weak link - grip issue

The outcome of this could be much worse, luckily it happened as I was shooting an interview and I was holding the camera with both hands, otherwise it could have ended by hitting the floor HARD.

And one more thing, I remember bitching to Curtis (Juice Designs — Welcome ) about the accessory arm being too close to the hand grip, boy did it save my ass on the field two days ago.
In case you're wondering, this piece of string I used for the fix is called Spectra and it's used by underwater spearmen as it's very, very tough.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 03:17 AM   #2
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In case you're wondering, this piece of string I used for the fix is called Spectra and it's used by underwater spearmen as it's very, very tough.
It is worth checking the straps on all your cameras on a regular basis for wear. I replaced my EX1's shoulder strap at the start of the year as the old one was showing wear around the metal retaining clip. As I wanted a genuine Sony part the price wasn't cheap.

Ironically I have a some superior Canon straps in the cupboard that only cost me a few quid, but I figure putting a Canon strap on a Sony camera probably isn't the done thing. :-)
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Old June 13th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #3
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Hi Marcus,

the strap itself is not a problem but the plastic eyelet on the grip itself, you can see it's broken.

I was stunned by the service center's response, they said that Sony's policy is to change the whole lens instead of the grip itself, which is something I'm not going to do.

Does anyone know is it possible to get Sony replacement parts somewhere?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #4
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Here's a place to start looking:
https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:34 AM   #5
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Thanks Les,

I've been studying the service manual and while they do describe how to remove the grip cover, there's no part number of it in the exploded view and I don't know what to look for.

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I've found on that web page that the ref. no. 631 lists as:
631 345246801 345246803 BELT GRIP $151.32

In the service manual the 631 is listed as:
631 3-452-468-01 s BELT, GRIP

$151 seems high for the belt alone so that should probably be the grip cover I need, what do you think guys?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:47 AM   #6
 
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More cheap manufacturing for an $8K camera a disgrace.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 06:04 AM   #7
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Hi Jalan,

nothing on this world is indestructible and meant to last forever and I'm not pissed about that, things break, they get repaired and everything's fine.

But I'm pissed when Sony wants to change the whole lens (a $2000 repair) because they don't sell a cheap plastic part which is actually very easy to replace (see the pic).
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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #8
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I had broken mine exactly just like yours but on my EX3 cam. I took a photo of the part and emailed it to a very reliable sony approved repair centre in the UK. They shipped me the part in just over 3 days and it was dead easy to change it - I am not normally a DIY man. Not sure whether I can mention the name as I'm not sure whether they are sponsors to this site or not. However you can email me and I'll let you know who the company was.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:50 AM   #9
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Thanks Brian, I fired a mail to you.


Small update, I got the part no. from https://www.servicesplus.sel.sony.com/

it's PN: 415266301 LENS GRIP COVER

that part is listed nowhere in the EX1 service manual but instead it is listed as an EX3 part.

Old EX1 and EX3 share the same grip so they should be compatible.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #10
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More cheap manufacturing for an $8K camera a disgrace.
Jalan, do you know something about the manufacturing at Sony that caused the part to break? I'm not seeing lots of EX-1 owners having this problem? Are you? What do you know about it?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #11
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Well Brian actually told me something interesting in our email exchange. It seems that the later batches of EX3 got an improved grip casing with a thicker eyelet for the belt.

They wouldn't change it if there was nothing wrong, right?

But I guess they had done that change under the radar, hoping no one would notice.


I'll let you know did I receive the revised part
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Old June 13th, 2012, 03:32 PM   #12
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Very interesting information - since I have one of the very first EX3's. I will be even more cautious when carrying it around with just my hand in that grip from now on. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 04:56 PM   #13
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Hi Zoran,

Could you take a close up of the replacement grip you get? I have an EX3 and I'd be interested to see if it has one of the later "stronger" eyelets. Also, for reference, if you could note what was different that would be much appreciated.

I had a Canon XH-A1 an it had the same issue with the handle.

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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:14 PM   #14
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Re: EX1 weak link - grip issue

That's interesting, my EX1 has a very different top connection for the strap on the grip which seems much stronger than the one in the picture. It consists of a horizontal slot where the strap enters the grip. There is no plastic loop.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 03:52 AM   #15
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Larry, can you take a close up and post it here?
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