new EF adapter coming soon at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony Digital Cinema Camera Systems > Sony XDCAM PMW-F3 CineAlta
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Sony XDCAM PMW-F3 CineAlta
HD recording with a Super35 CMOS Sensor.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 4th, 2011, 06:41 AM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 51
new EF adapter coming soon

After many discussions with this company who was very interested,
they decided to produce an EF adapter for the F3 with buil-in iris.

KIPON will begin to sell the first lot adapters for SONY F3 pro video-KIPON adapter

It will be selling in 10 days i hope...
Tony Partamian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #2
Telecam Films
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 723
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Good luck to Kipron then... I think the holly grail for SLR lenses adaptor would be a device that brings better and more precise iris control and a way to tap into the F3 electronics so such things as lens info, built-in stabilizer could be supported. I suppose this is quite complexe to do but one can only hope for a better world.

Take care,

T
__________________
Thierry Humeau, DoP
Télécam Films
www.telecamfilms.com
Thierry Humeau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2011, 07:18 AM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Efland NC, USA
Posts: 2,322
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Tony are you saying the adapter will have an iris in it instead of controlling the iris in the lens?
__________________
http://www.LandYachtMedia.com
Chris Medico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 5th, 2011, 07:01 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 246
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

I hear last week via a Sony contact that the F3 LCD tube shown at NAB this year will be shipping in a few months.
__________________
Peter Corbett
Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au
Peter Corbett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 6th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #5
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK
Posts: 4,957
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

The Kipron's for other cameras get mixed reviews. The iris is in the wrong place in the optical path so tends to create a lot of vignetting rather than proper exposure control.

I'll stick with Nikon lenses with proper iris rings.
__________________
Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com
Alister Chapman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 8th, 2011, 12:53 AM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 51
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

The Kipon representative told me they designed a built-in iris bigger than their former EOS-m4/3 converter.
And this is aimed at those who already have Canon lenses who don't accept removing the lens to change the iris without seeing the effect and exposure.

If i had the nikon lenses i would already be happy.

Fingers crossed...
Tony Partamian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 9th, 2011, 12:59 PM   #7
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK
Posts: 4,957
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Doesn't matter how big you make it, it's still in the wrong place. Think about what happens to the projected image from a lens when you pass it through a hole in a piece of card? It vignettes of course. Try shining a video projector through a hole cut in a piece of card.

If adding an iris ring behind the lens really worked, the camera manufacturers would have built it in to the camera bodies, making lenses simpler and much cheaper, sadly it doesn't work that way.
__________________
Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com
Alister Chapman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 12th, 2011, 09:28 AM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 975
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alister Chapman View Post
The iris is in the wrong place in the optical path so tends to create a lot of vignetting rather than proper exposure control.
Yes, can't see how it would be otherwise. Very odd.
Andrew Stone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 18th, 2011, 01:49 AM   #9
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 51
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Here's the picture of the prototypei received from them.
The canon adapter is the first prototype (hence the dirt on the iris) and will be on sale at the end of the month.
The Nikon is already on sale.

PS: even if it vignettes, i prefer to have an iris to see what it looks like before taking-off the lens.
And many times i tend to add vignettes in post.
Attached Thumbnails
new EF adapter coming soon-img_499.jpg  

Last edited by Tony Partamian; August 18th, 2011 at 01:51 AM. Reason: Missed the link
Tony Partamian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 18th, 2011, 09:05 AM   #10
Trustee
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada
Posts: 1,051
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

This is not a good design. it dosen't control the aperture AT ALL. It just vignette. I can't understand what they were thinking when they designed it. It can't work. I have one for the FS100, and the iris is useless with any lenses.
__________________
Jean-Philippe Archibald
http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib
Jean-Philippe Archibald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 18th, 2011, 01:08 PM   #11
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Efland NC, USA
Posts: 2,322
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Sorry to hear Jean-Phillipe that you had to experience a poorly designed product.
__________________
http://www.LandYachtMedia.com
Chris Medico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2011, 02:05 AM   #12
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 51
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

But if it costs half the MTF or Adaptimax and you have the option to "preview" the aperture...
why should i get the more expensive options?
Tony Partamian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2011, 08:03 AM   #13
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Cornwall UK
Posts: 793
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

Maybe because they work
__________________
Colin
Colin Rowe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2011, 10:08 AM   #14
Trustee
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada
Posts: 1,051
Re: new EF adapter coming soon

It can't even preview the aperture. The center stay overexposed while the edges vigniette. Trust me, it's completly unusable.
__________________
Jean-Philippe Archibald
http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib
Jean-Philippe Archibald is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony Digital Cinema Camera Systems > Sony XDCAM PMW-F3 CineAlta


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:20 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network